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  • My latest production. Complex rock mix. 34 tracks, multiple overdubbed guitars/back vox (p.3)
2014/01/06 14:56:37
patm300e
The songs below this sound MUCH better.  If they would have given you more time THEY could have gotten a much better product (Like the ones you did below that one)...At any rate for a quick job it does sound good.  Vocals seem a little low, but all in all nice job...
 
2014/01/10 19:34:41
ChuckC
Nonat - Thanks & No, It was not nearly enough.
 
Herb- Thanks yeah.... After completion, it was kinda cool. =)
 
Dub- Thanks, yep in retrospect it could have used probably another +.5db on the vocal.
 
Tom- Thanks,  Being able to play it all is a blessing and a curse....  You write the guitar and vocal for instance and bring it to your band to become a full song.... But the drums or bass they put on it is never quite right because well...  It's not what you have in your head and so it is often tough to let go.
 
Lynn- yes sir, I wish I had been giving ANY producer control on this....  It was a rush, hurry, high tension deal.  Given more time, the ability to help them with the arrangement/accompaniment  This could rock a good bit harder.
 
E.routt - Heh, thanks bud.   All I can say is it takes time and practice.  I still have a billion miles to go and much to learn, we all do.   If ya play billiards a lot, you get better at it.  Same for recording & mixing man, keep at it!
 
Rebel- Well thanks for listening then!  I did my best, I had about 31 hours in this inside a week with tracking/mix/master (on top of my other businesses normal work week, My wife and kids, my band had a gig, and thanksgiving) and at $200.... At some point you have to sit back and call it done.  The lead guitarist has been my best friend since we were idunno 13 yrs old.  I gave them a deal, but it took even longer than I thought and was a much busier song, mix, and more tracks then I anticipated.    When it sounded pretty good, they were happy, and I realized that I was now under $6.50 an hour.....  I said well, ehhhh I could still do this, or that, etc.   but this b!t@h is done!!! 
 
Bapu-  Vox= admittedly, you are right.   Bass... in the verse listen to that again man,  Ya got the vocal on top, rhythm guitar cranking along, lead guitar busy as hell and stepping on both the vocal, and the other guitar, then the bass player is walking all over too.  Sue me.  Somebody had to sit in the back seat to get everyone in the car!
 
Timidi -Thanks man.
 
Pat - Thanks for listening man,  I wish I had been given the luxury of time too.
 
 
2014/01/11 06:49:00
chasmcg
Sounds great to me. Starting out the vocal seemed too low but as the song progressed it seemed OK to me. 
2014/01/12 14:33:20
markno999
Chuck,
 
Sounds pretty good.   I would say you did a stellar job under the rushed circumstances and it seems your client got a great deal.   The mix sounds good to me.  
 
Regards
2014/01/19 14:05:51
ChuckC
Thanks guys.
2014/01/19 15:58:48
bapu
ChuckC
Bapu-  Vox= admittedly, you are right.   Bass... in the verse listen to that again man,  Ya got the vocal on top, rhythm guitar cranking along, lead guitar busy as hell and stepping on both the vocal, and the other guitar, then the bass player is walking all over too.  Sue me.  Somebody had to sit in the back seat to get everyone in the car!

 
RE: The bass. It was not about level but clarity. I promise not to sue you.
2014/01/19 21:14:24
ChuckC
I know exactly what you mean,  I just meant that even within the EQ, there were sacrifices I felt had to be made by the guitars for the sake of the more important vocals, by the bass for the more important guitars etc.   When I started the mix  I pulled everything down, put up the drums first, tweaked, then bass dialed it in, then guitars, vocals etc....  then went back and changed everything else I had already done on the drums and bass as there was not the room I hoped to have.  I think I as I continue to improve, I may well look back on this mix a couple years from now and be embarrassed that I should have done a little better.   I can tell you that on the next project when it looks like there is a lot of "traffic" in the mix I will put up a 5 minute level only mix, listen to determine what is important and work from the front of the stage backwards.  In this case meaning I would pull up or dim solo the vocal, get it where I wanted it, then pull up guitars around it, snuggle them in, then bass/drums etc.  The polar opposite of what I did here.
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