James, you're missing the point, which is that the Beatles had tapped into something universal. Those kids weren't part of Beatlemania, had never been told the band was a happenin' thing, never wanted a Beatle haircut like the cool kids.
 
Instead, they're hearing the music removed from the context of its time, with no pop-cultural cues to inform or prejudice them. Their reactions are therefore genuine. It tells me that Beatles tunes don't just resonate with me for nostalgic reasons, because it was the music of my youth. As with the melodies of composers long dead before I was born, they are genuinely good.

bitflipper
James, you're missing the point, which is that the Beatles had tapped into something universal. Those kids weren't part of Beatlemania, had never been told the band was a happenin' thing, never wanted a Beatle haircut like the cool kids.
 
Instead, they're hearing the music removed from the context of its time, with no pop-cultural cues to inform or prejudice them. Their reactions are therefore genuine. It tells me that Beatles tunes don't just resonate with me for nostalgic reasons, because it was the music of my youth. As with the melodies of composers long dead before I was born, they are genuinely good.

No, I got the point completely Dave. My post was responding to Moshkito's. I can see how it looked otherwise, but I couldn't be bothered to quote his post. Did you get my PM btw?

They call themselves the "Beatles?"  They won't go far with that name! 

Now play Oasis for the kiddos and ask if they've ever heard of the band that dissed the Beatles only to disappear almost overnight because of it.  The Gallagher brothers would have faired better claiming to be bigger than Jesus than pretending they are better than the Beatles, maybe....  Nah, they still would have imploded.  Beatles for life!

Thanks Bit, that was delightful. I feel for the poor girl who thinks that "Everyone knows" that Beiber is the best.
 
Kids and The Beatles. My 12 year old grand daughter loves The Beatles. She likes them more than I do now but less than I did in the 60s. She likes the movies too. They were great, timeless. Much more than "pop music".
 
Sometimes I learn things about The Beatles that makes me wonder. Like Lennon writing "Come Together" for Timothy Leary's run for governor of CA. Leary's drug bust ended his campaign before it got started. It makes me wonder what John was thinking (or not thinking). Leary preached "ego death" but had one of the biggest egos around.
Still, their music transcends all the weirdness, generations, and cultures.
 
J

Grizzlylip
Now play Oasis for the kiddos and ask if they've ever heard of the band that dissed the Beatles only to disappear almost overnight because of it.  The Gallagher brothers would have faired better claiming to be bigger than Jesus than pretending they are better than the Beatles, maybe....  Nah, they still would have imploded.  Beatles for life!

Well, I'd have to take issue with that, and I'm not a fan of Oasis....a 17 year career, 70 million albums sold, 8 UK No.1 albums and singles, 15 NME Awards, 9 Q Awards, 6 Brit Awards and nominated for 3 Grammys..hardly 'disappeared overnight' really.
 
Noel Gallagher is a fine songwriter, and much better away from his idiot brother, his solo stuff is worth checking out.

bitflipper
Instead, they're hearing the music removed from the context of its time, with no pop-cultural cues to inform or prejudice them. Their reactions are therefore genuine. It tells me that Beatles tunes don't just resonate with me for nostalgic reasons, because it was the music of my youth. As with the melodies of composers long dead before I was born, they are genuinely good.

Which I think is a very important point when it comes to listening to music ... specially NEW stuff that most folks can not relate to.
 
I absolutely agree with you, and yeah ... even in Brazil, we loved it, even though we had no idea what they were saying ... it didn't matter ... the music was shining through, and I think that this is some of the "magic" that we forgot about ... and I think that too many people are simply stuck on a format, and hoping their song clicks, and in the end, even though it was formulaic to a point musically, there was enough freedom, and expression, that it helped click with fans.
 
All great music is like that ... totally agreed. But getting to that spot where you don't judge the music and listen to it neutrally, is hard for most people ... but if anyone can get past the things that "you like", and the things that "you do" (as musicians), you will find another world out there ... and it is fabulous.
 
As on the stage, and acting exercises, CHILDREN and KIDS, is one of the biggest learning exercises ... because the results are not predictable and they catch you .... now try saying that to an experienced musician and its like you just scrambled his brain and fingers ... and he thinks he can't play!

I am discovering that my 11-year-old granddaughter has a more omnivorous musical appetite than I had at her age. Then again, I didn't have YouTube to augment whatever the radio gatekeepers introduced me to.
 
We recently spent an afternoon listening to Barbara Dennerlein, another half-day exploring Bob Marley, and another with Clara Rockmore. I did not have to coerce her into listening to these disparate musical sources. Kids are naturally open-minded. It's we adults who rob them of that gift when we encourage conformity and obedience over all else.

My girlfriend is 16 years younger than me and not quite the music enthusiast that I am (which is fine), so I rarely get comments one way or the other about the stuff I put on, which is nothing like the contemporary charty R&B stuff I think she has on her iPod. But occasionally she will hear a song and say "Oh what's this? I don't know why but I really like it" and from that I'm trying to get a sense of what kind of stuff I should put on without her thinking "ew...."
 
One of them was Squeeze's "Pulling Mussels From A Shell" and another was The Pretenders' "Private Life." I'm wondering if the late 70's is an avenue I should start exploring. It was a fantastic time for pop. 

sharke
My girlfriend is 16 years younger than me and not quite the music enthusiast that I am (which is fine), so I rarely get comments one way or the other about the stuff I put on, which is nothing like the contemporary charty R&B stuff I think she has on her iPod. But occasionally she will hear a song and say "Oh what's this? I don't know why but I really like it" and from that I'm trying to get a sense of what kind of stuff I should put on without her thinking "ew...."
 
One of them was Squeeze's "Pulling Mussels From A Shell" and another was The Pretenders' "Private Life." I'm wondering if the late 70's is an avenue I should start exploring. It was a fantastic time for pop. 

 
Yes it was..that's one of my favourite periods, there were loads of intelligent, pithy pop singles released by Squeeze, XTC, Ian Dury, Madness, The Pretenders, The Jam, Blondie, Elvis Costello, 10cc, Graham Parker, Kate Bush, The Motors, Thin Lizzy, ELO, The Cars, The Police etc etc.