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2014/01/09 13:57:55
bayoubill
I wouldn't change anything! This is a great tune ! !  ! 
2014/01/10 05:36:01
rontarrant
Wow! Thanks for all the comments, dcumpian, guitarhacker, Freddy J and bayoubill.
@James
@dcumpian - I've come up with a couple of places to shorten it, so I'll be taking a stab at that soon.
 
@Guitarhacker - I've never been compared to Gordon Lightfoot before. Years ago, I was told I looked like Phil Collins, but never a comparison to Lightfoot. These days, apparently, I look more like Giuseppe Verdi, especially in this famous photo.
 
@bayoubill - This has to be the most enthusiastic response so far. Thanks, Bill!
2014/01/10 08:27:03
olemon
+1 on a great song!  Refreshing.  This is excellent!! 
 
The song really grabbed me when the second guitar came in and it remained interesting throughout.  Many things going on with varying vocal parts, the guitars working together.  Instruments and vocals are tight, very nice arrangement.
2014/01/11 18:44:38
rontarrant
olemon
+1 on a great song!  Refreshing.  This is excellent!! 
 
The song really grabbed me when the second guitar came in and it remained interesting throughout.  Many things going on with varying vocal parts, the guitars working together.  Instruments and vocals are tight, very nice arrangement.

Thanks very, very much, olemon. BTW, is that an Irish name?
2014/01/14 08:04:44
rontarrant
GuitarhackerMy suggestion would be to shorten it up. You did mention "commercial" usage, so it needs to be around 3:00 to 3:30 in length (ideally) for that purpose.

My wife agrees and after reexamining my original feelings about length, I realize that I do, too and have done all along. It always felt a bit too long, especially the intro. I'm always afraid of losing the listener before I get them properly hooked.
I found a couple of other places to cut as well. The second verse and the repeat of the 1st verse each tack the first line on again at the end of the verse and that could easily be cut in both. It'll throw off the symmetry, but what the heck, right?
 
I do think both bridges need to stay in, though, just to keep the feeling of building toward what comes next. Does that make sense to you?
 
GuitarhackerAs far as the "unmastered" aspect.... it was a bit low in volume. Don't hesitate to put the polish on your tunes that you post. Put them out there in their best light as far as you are able.

This may sound like an excuse and for that, I apologize, but at this stage of learning, I wanted to make sure I was on the right track (forgive the pun) before going on to the mastering stage. I haven't even read up on mastering yet. Up 'til now, all I've ever done for 'mastering' was run it through HarBal.
 
Also, I find that my projects are all coming out low volume. Is that normal for this stage and then it's dealt with in mastering? Or am I doing something wrong?
 
I used to use a Soundcraft Compact 10, but after it (literally) fried itself to sleep, I got a Mackie 402-VLZ3 and the gain levels always seem really, really low to me. I've never been able to come anywhere near throughput unity on that board without taking chances with either my ears or my headphones.
 
2014/01/14 15:36:47
Lynn
I really wanted to hear this piece, but your link isn't working for me.  I've been listening to Soundcloud all day so I don't know what is happening.  I'll try later.
2014/01/14 17:52:02
rontarrant
Sorry, Lynn, I took it down. I was just looking for intermediate feedback and I'm now working on a remix. But I'll have a new version up in the next few days, hopefully.
2014/01/15 07:47:34
paulo
Linky no worky. Soundcloud asks if I need help ? I do, but how does soundcloud know ?? ;)
2014/01/15 10:14:31
rontarrant
pauloLinky no worky.

Yup, I took it down. I'll be uploading a new version soon.
PauloSoundcloud asks if I need help ? I do, but how does soundcloud know ?? ;)

You'd be surprised what a good AI algorithm can do these days.
2014/01/18 06:54:16
chasmcg
Ron, was going to listen to your song but it's not available.
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