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2015/12/30 23:48:18
Zo
Vastman , i m having trouble testing ozone 7 , how does the irc IV compare to stealth limiter ?
2015/12/31 11:00:29
bitflipper
IRC4 is unique. It's similar to a multi-band limiter except that instead of fixed bands like you'd normally find, it scans the entire spectrum for peaks and lowers them via EQ somewhat like a dynamic equalizer before they hit the limiter.
 
It works like a charm. The only downside is that it will noticeably alter your master EQ, and you may be the type who prefers to have full control over that yourself. In my experience, though, it does nothing but good stuff.
 
 
2015/12/31 13:10:24
Zo
bitflipper
IRC4 is unique. It's similar to a multi-band limiter except that instead of fixed bands like you'd normally find, it scans the entire spectrum for peaks and lowers them via EQ somewhat like a dynamic equalizer before they hit the limiter.
 
It works like a charm. The only downside is that it will noticeably alter your master EQ, and you may be the type who prefers to have full control over that yourself. In my experience, though, it does nothing but good stuff.
 
 




And versus Ik stealth ...what's you thoughts ? 
 
By the way Happy New years  to you , the fam and all the readers !!!
2015/12/31 18:17:34
bitflipper
I have not used the Stealth Limiter, so I cannot compare. My understanding is that it's a straightforward limiter, albeit with four algorithms and other features you'd expect from a high-end limiter (e.g. dither, oversampling). 
2016/01/01 19:20:53
orangesporanges
the idea behind Stealth Limiter is that IK claims to use a proprietary algorithm superior to simpler look ahead types and also addresses intersampling and DA conversion issues that, when left unchecked , present overs and distortion artifacts.It's going to be on my top 3 2016 purchase list. (want a good amp attenuator and a new keyboard controller as well). Now if it's Stealthy enough to fly under the radar of my accountant wife's watchful eye, that would be something
2016/01/01 20:14:53
bitflipper
Yeh, they make a big deal about Stealth's superior ISP detection. I'm skeptical, though. To do "true" peak detection properly is very CPU-intensive and not practical in a real-time processor. In all likelihood they're doing the same thing everybody else does, which is to use 4x or 8x oversampling. it's not going to be 100% accurate but it's close enough and requires far less number-crunching.
 
A proprietary lookahead feature sounds interesting, though. It could actually be doing something like Ozone is: some kind of EQ pre-processing before the limiter.
2016/01/02 00:31:07
Grem
orangesporanges
 
I too enjoy using ik multimedia, ......... They really have a few gems in their lineup.Flavor of the week? Classic Limiter. It's kind of hidden in their classic collection and has a lot of the best of multiband and "old school" response.
 



I have been saying this to whoever listens since I got the TrackS stuff. There are really some great gems in there.
2016/01/03 03:00:56
Sycraft
bitflipper
Yeh, they make a big deal about Stealth's superior ISP detection. I'm skeptical, though. To do "true" peak detection properly is very CPU-intensive and not practical in a real-time processor. In all likelihood they're doing the same thing everybody else does, which is to use 4x or 8x oversampling. it's not going to be 100% accurate but it's close enough and requires far less number-crunching.

 
It is oversampling, not true peaks. You can set it to either off, 4x or 16x in the plugin. It notes which you are using, and notes it as intersample peak detection.
 
That part of it isn't notable, same deal you see in many plugins as you note (I think of the ones I play with only Tone Booster Barricade actually has a lookahead setting). The big deal is the damn thing works like a volume control up to like 9dBish of boost. I dunno how it does it, but it really does seem to just make everything louder, with no changes to sound character. Any others I've tried only were able to do very small boosts, if at all, before either the character of the sound started changing or they started to distort in some way. This thing does distort/sound bad if you push it too hard but you can damn near double the perceived volume and have it sound the same as it did before. Even things like drum transients. Obviously they get reduced but they don't sound reduced, the hits still hit.
 
I figure it is a demonic pact, or gremlins or some such, but whatever, I'm happy :D.
2016/01/03 05:30:28
Zo
i wasn't exepcting it , but Ozone 7 maximer killed it several time in heavy tests situations, sepcially in lowend distortion , IK stealth shine in acoustic , but when it come to heavy modern music , the Ozone 7 rules .....in transparent mode ....IRC III & IV 
 
 
2016/01/03 05:50:29
Vastman
Haven't spent much time with ozone yet... it's sitting there awaiting a crazy song writing spurt and I am having way too much fun with Bohemian/ARK and other goodies... using my existing FF/IK mastering chain that I'm comfortable with...Stealth at 16x OS is a healthy hit to my 6 core intel... It's Intersample Limiting is quite lovely and has me all smiles; worth the cpu at the final stage...
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