Is it possible to convert .Wav and/or MP3 files to .MID/.MIDI files using Sonar (7 or 8)?

I'd really love to know how to do this

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With SONAR? No. Well, you can try using the extract functions in Sonar's AudioSnap and V-Vocal features, but those are mainly for mono audio tracks.

If you're talking about polyphonic music, you might want to check out Intelliscore. You can find it listed over on the DigiFreq Deals page under Innovative Music Systems:

http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/deals.asp

Best,
Scott

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Is it possible to convert .Wav and/or MP3 files to .MID/.MIDI files using Sonar (7 or 8)?

I'd really love to know how to do this

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Not like you might think. There are plugins for that but it doesn't take a mixed song apart and pick out all the parts. That type of thing is still in the future. About all you can do right now is decode a single mono track. It will give you the notes and maybe some velocity information if it can tell how loud each note is but it's still not an exact science. Also, for that infromation to be valuable you still have to match up the MIDI with a software synth patch that gets close to the attack, decay, sustain, and release and sound of the instrument in the audio.

What that type of thing can be good for is replaceing real drum tracks with MIDI. That's a fairly easy job since pitch doesn't have to be decoded it just has to guess where the hit is on the timeline and spit out the note you want. Or maybe a single note line like a horn track. When you get into chords or fancy guitar leads it will get lost.

Thanks for the prompt replies, guys. This is insightful, and helps me be more realistic.

It'll be great when they've got something quite precise. I guess that makes it all to easy for people like me, then, though. I'll love to do some ethnic instrument cross-overs with western music and vica versa.

I've got IntelleScore 7.0, Scott, but I don't seem to be able to use the discount code of the update version. Anyway to sort this? I'd like to see if version 7.2 is much better than 7.0.

Cheers,
lllewelll

ORIGINAL: lllewelll


I've got IntelleScore 7.0, Scott, but I don't seem to be able to use the discount code of the update version. Anyway to sort this? I'd like to see if version 7.2 is much better than 7.0.

Cheers,
lllewelll

Hi lllewelll,

You would need to contact the Innovative Music Systems company about that. They have contact info at:
http://www.intelliscore.net/contact.html

Best,
Scott

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Unless you have access to some killer Star Trek technology, the short answer is no.  The only real way to convert a full MP3 track to a fully split 16 track MIDI file, complete with the right patches, effects and feel, is do it manually - and with patience. 

If you attempt to use any automated process, you would end up with a piece that sounds like a cat running up and down a keyboard.

Thinking out loud (maybe bad idea).  I wonder if Band in a Box or Real Tracks would do this?  I think Real Tracks will accept a wav file and save it as a .mid. 

Still the most accurate (& probably quickest, even) way is to transcribe the music manually.

FWIW, this thread from 2009 was revived by spam (now deleted).

Thanks, scook. Those guys are persistent, aren't they...
 
I might as well add an update to the thread that although converting program material from WAV to MIDI is not really doable, I've been having good results with Melodyne (Editor version) converting guitar chords to MIDI. It requires a little cleanup but so far, it's an effective way to do "MIDI guitar."