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2013/12/22 17:20:51
chrisby
So about every year or two I manage to almost finish something. I think it's so long between that I forget everything I learn. The song below is sort of indie'ish guitar driven thing I think and this time for some reason even though the mix sounds good in phones and also on monitors it's not so good elsewhere so 1) Any mix advice appreciated, 2) comments on the song appreciated too (even the bad ones)... thx! 
 
PS - also any comments on getting better guitar sounds out of amplitube (which was mostly used) appreciated.
 
https://soundcloud.com/chrisby01/celebrate
 
 
2013/12/22 20:26:20
theguitarplayer
Sounds like way to much compression on the final mix. Nice song, just needs some tweaking. Merry Christmas !!
 
Peace and Blessings, John
2013/12/22 20:57:15
chrisby
Thanks, I used a canned preset in T-Racks on the master bus. At first the mix was really really quiet (low levels) so I bumped up the output on the eq and compressor in the chain. Then the limiter was kicking in heavily so I backed it off a bit on both and that was how I left it. I'll rethink/re-tweak those settings and see if it starts sounding more the same between my home system and my monitors.
 
   Thanks again for listening and the input!
2013/12/23 15:42:07
e.routt@hotmail.com
not bad:) wish i could give you advice but sadly i am trying to get some myself:( sorry
 
Merry Christmas!
2013/12/27 11:29:54
dcumpian
The tone of the mix is pretty good, I like the guitars. There are two things I would suggest:
 
1) Add some separation to the various guitars. They currently share much of the same tone and get sort of squashed together. Some of that is being caused by the compression, of course, but I'd suggest making each guitar part sound a bit more unique unless you are layering to beef up a single part.
 
2) I'm hearing a touch of distortion on the vocals.
 
Regards,
Dan
 
2013/12/27 14:36:32
Lynn
I like this song, and the mix is very close to being right on.  The overall sound fills the room and has presence.  As has been suggested, back off the compression just a bit to give the song more dynamic range.  But, not too much.  I like your voice in this, and I hear texture more than distortion, which is fairly common for this genre.  Good effort, and HNY!
2013/12/27 15:03:28
chrisby
dcumpian
The tone of the mix is pretty good, I like the guitars. There are two things I would suggest:
 
1) Add some separation to the various guitars. They currently share much of the same tone and get sort of squashed together. Some of that is being caused by the compression, of course, but I'd suggest making each guitar part sound a bit more unique unless you are layering to beef up a single part.
 
2) I'm hearing a touch of distortion on the vocals.
 
Regards,
Dan
 


Thanks for the input and taking the time to listen...  So by separation you're meaning tonally? Not in the stereo or eq field (which I guess is sort of tone)? The three guitar sound heard on their own actually do sound quite different but maybe that's just not coming through for some reason.  The main two parts are by a bright jag and a heavier/more distorted lp. Though neither are the "real deal"  so maybe that has something to do with it.... 
 
Ps - just tried to check out your tune from today but can't from tablet for some reason (but will later when I get home)...  I miss Hawaii, lived there a few years ago.... 
2013/12/27 15:11:25
chrisby
Lynn
I like this song, and the mix is very close to being right on.  The overall sound fills the room and has presence.  As has been suggested, back off the compression just a bit to give the song more dynamic range.  But, not too much.  I like your voice in this, and I hear texture more than distortion, which is fairly common for this genre.  Good effort, and HNY!


Thanks (and happy new years to you too)! Yeah, I think I went a little too hard on the "loudness" thing. I already made a different mix that shows a lot less compression just haven't uploaded it yet (family in town for the first time in forever). And yeah, the vocal distortion is sort of on purpose. Singing is definitely not my forte! Thanks again!
2013/12/27 18:10:32
speedtom
I like the song, particulary the chorus! In regards to the sound, my little critique would be the drums...I mean, they sound okay, but too much of a drum machine. besides, I like your style, guitar sound and vocals, really nothing nothing to complain. The structure with the big chorus combined with big guitars is just my style!
2013/12/27 18:39:52
dcumpian
 
 
chrisby
dcumpian
The tone of the mix is pretty good, I like the guitars. There are two things I would suggest:
 
1) Add some separation to the various guitars. They currently share much of the same tone and get sort of squashed together. Some of that is being caused by the compression, of course, but I'd suggest making each guitar part sound a bit more unique unless you are layering to beef up a single part.
 
2) I'm hearing a touch of distortion on the vocals.
 
Regards,
Dan
 


Thanks for the input and taking the time to listen...  So by separation you're meaning tonally? Not in the stereo or eq field (which I guess is sort of tone)? The three guitar sound heard on their own actually do sound quite different but maybe that's just not coming through for some reason.  The main two parts are by a bright jag and a heavier/more distorted lp. Though neither are the "real deal"  so maybe that has something to do with it.... 
 
Ps - just tried to check out your tune from today but can't from tablet for some reason (but will later when I get home)...  I miss Hawaii, lived there a few years ago.... 




Those differences aren't coming through, and I'm listening on pretty good cans. How many guitar parts are there altogether? Maybe some spatial separation would help.
 
Don't worry about "real deal" or not; you can do a lot in the mix to make anything sound good if it is played/recorded well. I like what I'm hearing, it just isn't very clear what each guitar is doing, if you can understand that better. :)
 
Regards,
Dan
 
 
 
 
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