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  • Using the Microsoft SURFACE DIAL with SONAR Walkthrough
2017/10/07 22:00:16
simeon
The latest SONAR update introduced compatibility with the Microsoft Surface Dial.
If you are running the latest version of Windows 10 (Anniversary Edition or later) and have Bluetooth 4.0 LE(Low Energy) support then you can use the Surface Dial. I purchased a very inexpensive Bluetooth 4.0 Receiver from Amazon and it works great.
 
I put together a short walkthrough video below.
Hopefully more functionality can be integrated to leverage the workflow potential the Surface Dial can bring to SONAR's ; Enjoy:
 
SURFACE DIAL MEETS SONAR WALKTHROUGH
2017/10/07 23:10:19
Jesse G
Nice video tutorial of the surface dial, however, I think I will stick with my Mackie Control Universal (MCU) to control Sonar.
2017/10/07 23:34:53
THERAPSMITH
Thanks for the video
2017/10/07 23:42:54
bitman
One of the better presented youtube tutorials I have seen on any subject.
 
Thanks for that.
2017/10/08 05:33:36
cparmerlee
Jesse G
Nice video tutorial of the surface dial, however, I think I will stick with my Mackie Control Universal (MCU) to control Sonar.



I really appreciate this video.  I can imagine that this will evolve into a useful tool over time and I am glad to see this development.  But I agree with Jesse.  I have not bought a control surface yet, but I think the Behringer control surface would provide more productivity than I would get from the dial thingie at the moment. 
 
It is really hard to fundamentally improve the computer UI.  Xerox hit it out of the park with the mouse.  Since then we've had finger pads, trackballs, styluses, and more recently touch screens,  But none of them has been as successful as the mouse -- and that has been 44 years, folks.  The control surface is different because it is essentially the UI of an old-style recording studio, which is a tried and true system.
 
I have been impressed with what Microsoft (and partners) have been able to do with graphic arts using the the dial on the Surface Studio.  Maybe we will eventually get to that level of integration with Sonar.  In light of the abandonment of the Mac efforts, I do think it is a good strategy to position Sonar at the leading edge of Microsoft technology.
2017/10/08 13:56:59
simeon
Jesse G
Nice video tutorial of the surface dial, however, I think I will stick with my Mackie Control Universal (MCU) to control Sonar.



Well yeah! 
I used to use a Motormix but it has run into a lot of power supply and other issues and support for it has gone extinct. I love where some of the new control surfaces are going though and nothing beats being able to use a real fader and channel strip controls. I even started building my own custom MIDI controller (MIDIBox) a few years ago with motorized faders.
 
My thing was when the Microsoft guys told me I couldn't do it that just had me determined to figure out how I could ;) 
 
All the best!
2017/10/08 14:26:25
azslow3
Well made video!
 
But the device itself... DAWs have Control Surfaces for long time. And while one (!) touch sensitive push encoder can be presented as a "new technology" for general computer operations, for DAWs that is the "last century". AlphaTrack (obsolete!) has 3 (!) such controls, just smaller.
 
StudioMix/VS700/MCU have a Jogger. And unlike Surface Dial, they have many buttons in the near, which can be used as switched or modifiers. When testing my StudioMix (unfortunately buggy/broken on hardware level, so I no longer use it), I have made its jog dial + modifiers perform almost all continuous tasks: zoom, jog, modify parameters, with several "resolutions". Testing cheap DJ controller, with "turn table", was different fun. It was "heavy", precise and touch sensitive. Definitively different in feeling compare to jogger.
 
I means DAWs, also Sonar, are "well prepared" to use yet another "knob". But I do not see it as a "step forward".
2017/10/08 15:07:09
cparmerlee
azslow3
DAWs, also Sonar, are "well prepared" to use yet another "knob". But I do not see it as a "step forward".



It is a starting point.  It looks pretty near worthless in its present implementation.  But one can certainly imagine many time saving gestures in the future.  Have a look at the kind of integration in StaffPad already.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JR7HAKmAdhs.
 
However, for that integration to work, it seems like you really do need a huge touch-sensitive surface in a horizontal (desk) arrangement.  This may seem awkward for people who have spent decades looking at meters and control panels horizontally.  But I think it is way too early to judge the potential.
2017/10/08 15:15:31
FCCfirstclass
Very nice video.  Thanks for that.
2017/10/08 15:56:52
gswitz
Nice that it isn't tethered. By that I mean it isn't connected with a cord.
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