If you are just listening to samples on the net, try the real thing, you should have no problem noticing the difference.

tom1
I hope they come out with one that will turn my Neumann U87 into a Shure 58.
 
Can't wait for that one.

You can do this with Mic Room now... Get that Bono/Michael Jackson vibe (Talent Not Included™), instead of using that silly expensive microphone! :)

tom1
I hope they come out with one that will turn my Neumann U87 into a Shure 58.
 
Can't wait for that one.

Well, you don't need a mic modeler for that.  Wrap the 87 with a couple of thick towels.  Voila! Shure 58.  Remove one of the towels -- Shure 58 Beta!

I think we have to approach these mic modelers this way..
 
they will not magically make our  Eye Rig Mic or Sm 58  respond like a 5000 dollar Neuman, but what they will do is impart color and change the characteristics of the sound, either in a good way or bad.. so we as musos and producers are always looking for that unique or different "sound",
anyway thats how i will use the plug in ..

Yeah, to me it's just like any other plug that you use to enhance the sound and leave it sounding better than before, makes no difference to me if it is, or they call it a 'mic modeler' they could call it a 'dead twig modeler' for all I care, as long as it leaves things in a better shape than before. I like it anyway.

Richard Cranium
Yeah, to me it's just like any other plug that you use to enhance the sound and leave it sounding better than before, makes no difference to me if it is, or they call it a 'mic modeler' they could call it a 'dead twig modeler' for all I care, as long as it leaves things in a better shape than before. I like it anyway.

Ahhh but Monsour Head, one mans good or better  is another mans krap or sounds like arse...
 
music is in the ear of the beholder...

indeed, and I would never assume otherwise (nor do I think I said contrary). . . except for maybe country music and the majority of EDM, that's just straight out wrong j/k
 
If I like something I will say it, if I don't I will say it, not that it means anything to anyone but myself, because in the end it doesn't really matter what others think, but I like to at least try things out to see if I like them, or like what they do before passing judgement on them.

JonD

tom1
I hope they come out with one that will turn my Neumann U87 into a Shure 58.
 
Can't wait for that one.

Well, you don't need a mic modeler for that.  Wrap the 87 with a couple of thick towels.  Voila! Shure 58.  Remove one of the towels -- Shure 58 Beta!

That was funny )

Saw this in an email push from IK a few weeks ago, looks sorta interesting.  Although I gotta wonder how "practical" the modeling is considering - as far as I can tell - the source mic options are the same as the target mic options.  Which is to say that you may end up with realistic mic modeling if you record on a coveted $5000 microphone then re-mic it to a different coveted $5000 microphone.  But when your vocal track was recorded with an AT2035 (or any other bargain-priced mic many home studio users actually own) and that particular mic isn't available as a source in the software, well, it's not exactly doing a realistic emulation.  I understand why the software would ask for a source mic (just like how their ARC 2 software creates a target curve based upon real-life content recorded in your room) in order to apply the appropriate effects to emulate a different mic, but seems counter-intuitive to only include high-end mics as available sources.  If people actually own a TLM103 or U87 or whatever, they're probably just going to record with them to begin with. :)
 
Not saying that the software couldn't improve upon a vocal track, because like any other plug-in, I'm sure it can add a desirable vibe with some tweaking, and it is a fun concept.  Just don't see it as being as practical as an amp modeler, which of course works because it's taking a dry signal and running it through a virtual amp, as opposed to taking a processed signal, trying to undo that processing then add a different flavor to it.  To me, the mic modeling approach seems to be the amp modeler equivalent of recording a Les Paul through a Marshall, then taking that signal and trying to run it through a Fender virtual amp.  Not gonna sound like a Fender. :)

streckfus
Saw this in an email push from IK a few weeks ago, looks sorta interesting.  Although I gotta wonder how "practical" the modeling is considering - as far as I can tell - the source mic options are the same as the target mic options.  Which is to say that you may end up with realistic mic modeling if you record on a coveted $5000 microphone then re-mic it to a different coveted $5000 microphone.  But when your vocal track was recorded with an AT2035 (or any other bargain-priced mic many home studio users actually own) and that particular mic isn't available as a source in the software, well, it's not exactly doing a realistic emulation.  I understand why the software would ask for a source mic (just like how their ARC 2 software creates a target curve based upon real-life content recorded in your room) in order to apply the appropriate effects to emulate a different mic, but seems counter-intuitive to only include high-end mics as available sources.  If people actually own a TLM103 or U87 or whatever, they're probably just going to record with them to begin with. :)
 
Not saying that the software couldn't improve upon a vocal track, because like any other plug-in, I'm sure it can add a desirable vibe with some tweaking, and it is a fun concept.  Just don't see it as being as practical as an amp modeler, which of course works because it's taking a dry signal and running it through a virtual amp, as opposed to taking a processed signal, trying to undo that processing then add a different flavor to it.  To me, the mic modeling approach seems to be the amp modeler equivalent of recording a Les Paul through a Marshall, then taking that signal and trying to run it through a Fender virtual amp.  Not gonna sound like a Fender. :)

The use case you mention is far from the norm/expected.  I would venture a guess that many have an SM57 or SM58 since they are budget studio mics and known workhorses.  Also, our mics are far from $5000 mics too, and since we are obviously very knowledgeable about their characteristics we can provide excellent results from a budget mic.  The budget mics that are available as source are far more likely the typical use case than someone using a U87 as source for the U67 model, etc.
 
Why include these expensive mics as source, then, you might ask?  Because we have them, we modeled them, and that made it reasonable to allow them to be used as source.  Or, the short version:  "Why not??"  :)