2015/01/24 23:17:08
clintmartin
Well I listed 6 different comps in my earlier post, and then just used the PC4K Bus comp in the Pro Channel. It's a very underrated compressor. Why in the hell do I own so many compressors?
2015/01/25 03:55:08
musichoo
My favourite is ikmultimedia bus compressor. I like it better than native instruments' bus compressor and sonar's.
2015/01/25 07:50:34
wizard71
THanks guys, you have all been most helpful. I have downloaded all the demos plus the freebie. So far i am enjoying the slate vbc and the freebie the most.
2015/01/25 08:21:41
cclarry
bitflipper
Tokyo Dawn's Kotelnikov is definitely a contender, and it's FREE. Don't let the free part put you off; it's as good as anything out there for mastering.



There is a paid version of this at 40 Euros...called The Gentlemen's Edition...
better features
http://www.tokyodawn.net/tdr-kotelnikov-ge/


2015/01/25 09:56:31
bitflipper
Kotelnikov takes a little effort to wrap your head around because it's fundamentally different from most other compressors. It's actually two separate compressors, one having a peak detector and the other an RMS detector. They share a common attack value but each has its own release time. 
 
Balancing the two compressors is accomplished via a "Peak Crest" knob. This more or less determines your peak-to-RMS ratio, otherwise known as the crest factor. Crest factor is actually much more involved than that, and is greatly affected by attack time, compression ratio, threshold and knee shape. But the "Peak Crest" control does let you moderate the compressor's effect on peaks, depending on whether you want to have a crisp, punchy mix (high crest factor) or just a very loud one (low crest factor).
 
Placing a compressor on the master bus normally has the effect of lowering the crest factor by raising average RMS (and perceived volume). Up to a point, lowering the crest factor is desirable for most genres. It's what's often referred to as "gluing" the mix. But just as you learned by assembling plastic model cars and airplanes as a kid, there is an optimal amount of glue, beyond which you just get a gooey mess. Too much glue compression will also result in a gooey mess of a mix.
 
Granted, sometimes that's exactly what you're after: a loud master at any cost. Kotelnikov makes it easier to dial in just how much of the micro-dynamics you're willing to sacrifice in the name of loudness.
2015/01/25 10:07:04
Rimshot
Much thanks for the tip on the Kotelnikov . Will check it out today.
2015/01/25 11:06:12
wizard71
bitflipper
Kotelnikov takes a little effort to wrap your head around because it's fundamentally different from most other compressors. It's actually two separate compressors, one having a peak detector and the other an RMS detector. They share a common attack value but each has its own release time. 
 
Balancing the two compressors is accomplished via a "Peak Crest" knob. This more or less determines your peak-to-RMS ratio, otherwise known as the crest factor. Crest factor is actually much more involved than that, and is greatly affected by attack time, compression ratio, threshold and knee shape. But the "Peak Crest" control does let you moderate the compressor's effect on peaks, depending on whether you want to have a crisp, punchy mix (high crest factor) or just a very loud one (low crest factor).
 
Placing a compressor on the master bus normally has the effect of lowering the crest factor by raising average RMS (and perceived volume). Up to a point, lowering the crest factor is desirable for most genres. It's what's often referred to as "gluing" the mix. But just as you learned by assembling plastic model cars and airplanes as a kid, there is an optimal amount of glue, beyond which you just get a gooey mess. Too much glue compression will also result in a gooey mess of a mix.
 
Granted, sometimes that's exactly what you're after: a loud master at any cost. Kotelnikov makes it easier to dial in just how much of the micro-dynamics you're willing to sacrifice in the name of loudness.




It definitely seems more complicated to use than most compressors, i shall relish learning how to use it effectively and will most likely upgrade to the gentlemans edition. The feedback II compressor looks great too. Thanks for the overview Dave. It definitely gets rave reviews, talking of which, would love to see one of this on soundbytes if you ever get the chance? 
2015/01/25 14:58:39
clintmartin
Everything from TDR and vladg sound is worth having...great stuff!
2015/01/25 19:28:02
dlesaux
Just when we thought we had too many compressors, Cakewalk is about to offer a new one! And despite my best intentions, I'll probably download a demo and get it! How many compressors do we need!?
2015/01/25 21:59:14
cclarry
dlesaux
Just when we thought we had too many compressors, Cakewalk is about to offer a new one! And despite my best intentions, I'll probably download a demo and get it! How many compressors do we need!?



Apparently thousands!!! 
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