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  • Where I Need To Be - Final Mix 21 Aug 2013 (p.4)
2013/03/09 09:06:57
chuckebaby
great story here ed.
its got almost a retro feel to it,like it was recorded using legacy equipment.
got that mama' and the papa's feel to it...im a big fan of them,i own every album they ever put out and then some.
the chorus is really nice in this song, it really gains power with the piano.

this is a great song,i do feel your voice works with this song and works well.
there's just a few spots where I think are a little out of key(but not by much)

this is a great song, big seller if you ask me, it has all the potential, good lyrics, good melody's and powerful changes.

I think it has what it takes to achieve staus and I think it serves as a vehicle for you to transport you feelings from the unknown place we don't know about you to the real world. 
2013/03/09 09:22:20
jamesyoyo
Listening to the new mix on earbuds, I cannot honestly hear the bass at all except for on some of the runs.

The guitars are still too loud and too much high end. Is it the stereo effect causing this? I would ditch it altogether, do a single acoustic on the left, put the piano on the right and call it a day.

Judy Collins meets Dylan.
2013/03/09 12:39:13
drumstixkev
 I really enjoyed this piece.  The effects/recording gave the mix a very cool classic analog/60.s vibe.  KUDOS!


Kev
2013/03/09 17:27:05
CLEAN
Very Dylanish. I really enjoyed this. I don't think I had ever heard your voice before - love it.
2013/03/09 18:53:36
bapu
Scottytunes


I like the delivery/phrasing of the lyrics. You could loosen up a bit as Frank mentioned. Reminds me of Dylan just a little. 

Thanks Scotty. Yeah, gotta work on that "loosen up" thing. 
2013/03/09 19:24:25
chuckebaby
bapu


Scottytunes


I like the delivery/phrasing of the lyrics. You could loosen up a bit as Frank mentioned. Reminds me of Dylan just a little. 

Thanks Scotty. Yeah, gotta work on that "loosen up" thing. 

no you don't, you have a good voice, very dylanesque.
it takes years and years to become a good singer, those who are just born that way make me jealous.
ive gone through many teachers and many schools to better myself as a singer.
 
I used to be afraid to compliment myself in fear of not being good enough.
im not afraid anymore  :)
 
2013/03/09 21:15:55
bapu
jamesyoyo


Listening to the new mix on earbuds, I cannot honestly hear the bass at all except for on some of the runs.

The guitars are still too loud and too much high end. Is it the stereo effect causing this? I would ditch it altogether, do a single acoustic on the left, put the piano on the right and call it a day.

Judy Collins meets Dylan.

Yeah, I could not hear the bass in the car either. An the vox was still a little lost to me.


So, "final" misx is up. Took your advice on the panning of the guitar and piano and upped the bass 2.5db and the vox 2db.


I'm gonna call it a day and "in the can".


2013/03/09 21:21:08
bapu
mike_mccue


The new mix seems more balanced.

How about pulling the guitars back on the chorus and letting the piano breathe a bit in those parts.

It may not be that the strummed guitars are too loud... it may just be that they are omni present.

Maybe pull the guitars back at places and then pop them up where the strumming propels the song.

On the other hand there are places where the piano parts seem busy where I am listening for some sort of chordal pad of whole notes. Those parts are on the verses where I am listening for some sort of chord bed to frame the vocal help it sound harmonious.

The bass is playing a great supportive part... there are times where I might try to see if the piano could support the vocals in the same simple way but with simple chords rather than just bass notes.

The turnarounds and intro sound just right. The piano parts and the guitar mesh nicely there.


That's the place to bring the guitars up t where they already are... to ramp up some excitement after the verse.






I like the use of reverb. 


I personally, like to place my pop combo mixes in one room... that's from my interest in live music listening of pop combos. 


I think this song could gel up a bit if the reverb used on the different instruments seemed a bit more similar. Am I making a fool of myself here? Are they all the same reverb on a bus? Or are you mixing and matching?


I like to use some reverb as an effect and then some master reverb as glue. I'd be interested in more "glue" but I think that you may also want to tweak the effect reverb to make it all work smooth.



You know I hate saying this stuff so do me a favor... don't pay attention to anything I just wrote. ;-)


Hugs and pancakes.

best regards,
mike

See previous post to Mr. Jamesyoyo about the panning of the guitar and piano.


FWIW, the piano, bass, acoustic guitar and dulcimer do not have any verb on them. The drums have room mics. The only verb on the whole track is on the vox, so in that sense the "mix and match" on this tune amounts to the electric guitar (doubled on the dulcimer solo at the end) using a Fender Twin Reverb, drums and the vox (using an EMT 250).




2013/03/09 23:38:24
The Band19
I still like it.
2013/03/10 04:56:29
sharke
I like it very much. Bit bass-heavy for my taste but it still comes across well. 
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