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  • Why are government websites so astoundingly awful? (p.2)
2015/12/21 17:12:28
sharke
BobF
sharke
Oh I have an equal opportunities hatred for all political parties too. Some things the government will never do well. The very fact that you don't have a choice in dealing with them means they work to a totally different set of motivations than a private business.
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You mean like 'govern'?


It all falls under the umbrella of providing a service.
2015/12/21 17:57:09
arlen2133
jbow
Government does nothing well.
They have spent over 2 billion dollars on the 0bamacare website... l

bitflipper
... the famous $50 million Obamacare website. They should have let NASA design it - it would have been $500 million but it would have worked flawlessly...


If you put these two quotes together, it sounds like the invoice "aka stupidity tax" was invoked.
2015/12/21 20:17:41
craigb
I worked for a defense contractor back in the early 80's.  $34/hour as a 19-year old programmer was REALLY good back then!  Towards the end of my programming career (at least, the apparent end if I can't find new employment!) I was being billed out by Anderson Consulting (now Accenture) at $375/hour - I wish I had gotten more of that than I did! 
 
But, back to the defense contractor for a moment, I was amazed when ANYTHING actually worked.  Programmers were handicapped in every possible way to the point that getting three lines written per day seemed like a good day (there were over 13 million lines of code in the final product of one project, a financial system for the Navy, and that project got cancelled in 1987 after almost six years wasting somewhere around $35 million of tax payer money!).  Back in those days, there were no "canned" subroutines already written and tested for everyone to use so everything was new - and very linear!  No object programming back then.  Yikes!
2015/12/21 22:13:04
jbow
craigb
I worked for a defense contractor back in the early 80's.  $34/hour as a 19-year old programmer was REALLY good back then!  Towards the end of my programming career (at least, the apparent end if I can't find new employment!) I was being billed out by Anderson Consulting (now Accenture) at $375/hour - I wish I had gotten more of that than I did! 
 
But, back to the defense contractor for a moment, I was amazed when ANYTHING actually worked.  Programmers were handicapped in every possible way to the point that getting three lines written per day seemed like a good day (there were over 13 million lines of code in the final product of one project, a financial system for the Navy, and that project got cancelled in 1987 after almost six years wasting somewhere around $35 million of tax payer money!).  Back in those days, there were no "canned" subroutines already written and tested for everyone to use so everything was new - and very linear!  No object programming back then.  Yikes!


That is an astounding abomination but $375 an hour is GOOD money. I wish you were still getting it! You know someone is.. government REALLY sux. I really, REALLY wish EVERYONE would claim 15 dependents so the government wouldn't get an interest free loan. If everyone had to write a check for taxes, things would change fast. It would be a hoot to see what would happen if no one paid any tax for maybe a month, just to get their attention.
I always cringe when I hear someone say, "I didn't have t pay any taxes, I got money back". Then again, these days there is the income tax credit. Money for nothing and your chicks for free...
sorry...
Really, I'm glad for you. I would have LOVED to have been in on that and would have done it in a heartbeat. Anytime you can get money back from the government, get it. They sure don't mind taking it from us if we make any.
I told my wife some 40 odd years ago that the only real plan for us was to make enough for us and out neighbor too. It's either that or be poor for the regular guy. The way the economy is going, if the dollar keeps losing value I may actually be a millionaire one day but by that time it will probably take a million dollars to buy a car. Everything is always just a little bit too relative in my experience. Some days you're the windshield, other days you're the bug.. lots of bug days lately.
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