2015/10/09 07:05:21
codamedia
bitflipper
Gee, I'm sorry about getting your hopes up only to find it's not yet available in your countries. Austria, I can understand. It's probably EU red tape. But Canada? Really? Cheese and hockey!

Netflix in Canada is a long way behind the US, but this documentary did show up rather quickly compared to most. Only had to wait an added month for this one.
2015/10/09 09:54:24
Moshkito
Hi,
 
Still have not gotten this ... as soon as Amazon stops being stupid and discriminate against them Brittish/English folks!
 
Global economy ... FU Amazon!
2015/10/31 16:41:45
Moshkito
Hi,
 
BIT ... you gotta see this ... lovely stuff! Insane too. And Tangerine Dream also has some stuff about "echo chambers" in those early days and how they dealt with it ... it had been on an interview with Edgar Froese ... and I hope it makes it to the book, because it was fantastic stuff ... crazy, too!
 
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=104607  -- about those early days ...
2015/10/31 18:18:22
TheMaartian
bitflipper
maximumpower
When I was young, my brother played Switched on Bach a lot for me. I loved that album. I purchased it as an adult (digital media) but still sounds good to me.

There were enormous gaps in the history presented in the film. Perhaps the most egregious omission was Tomita's Snowflakes are Dancing. That album actually predates Switched on Bach but could not be released until SoB demonstrated that a market existed. Snowflakes is vastly more sophisticated, both musically and technically. SoB sounded mechanical and dull by comparison, while Snowflakes oozed lushness and expressiveness and showed that the synthesizer could be much more than a novelty.
 
I still like Switched on Bach and its sequel, mainly because I am a fan of J.S.B. But I can't think of another synth-only recording that has held up as well over the years as Snowflakes are Dancing.

Crapola! There's goes my budget. While checking Amazon for SaD, I found this:
 
June 2014 Major Update!

This is my CLASSICAL TOMITA GUIDE with REVIEWS and QUALITY COMPARISONS, but first I have some Exciting News for you! TOMITA has released Six New (Super Audio) SACDs in Discrete 4 Channel Sound - the very definition of QUADRAPHONIC!! (so much better than the Surround Sound you hear while watching DVDs or TV.) The three Classical re-releases are CLAIR DE LUNE (SNOWFLAKES ARE DANCING), PICTURES AT AN EXHIBITION, and THE PLANETS!! These are almost like totally new albums. Mr. TOMITA himself did new sounds, music, and multi-track mixes for most of the original tracks on CLAIR DE LUNE and PLANETS. He even created some totally new tracks! All the SACDs are Hybrids (playable on any player) and the DSD (Direct-Stream Digital) tracks are very clean, with pure bright highs and deep powerful bass.
 
MUST have!
2015/11/01 10:12:09
bitflipper
I will probably spring for the three remixed albums.
 
But what are you supposed to do with a quadraphonic recording?
2015/11/01 12:28:17
TheMaartian
bitflipper
I will probably spring for the three remixed albums.
 
But what are you supposed to do with a quadraphonic recording?

I'm going to put it in my Oppo disk player and let my Denon AVR figure it out! 


2015/11/02 15:25:09
Moshkito
bitflipper
I will probably spring for the three remixed albums.
 
But what are you supposed to do with a quadraphonic recording?




Find some good "dope"?
 

 
Actually you don't need it, but what the heck ... good sounding stereo will make this come alive ... but none of it will sound half as good as my old roomate that used to play both LP's side by side and get those swoshes and the like ... and the best of all these, was ... Stravinsky's Firebird Suite! (Tomita's) ... and I'm missing the first couple of minutes on it as I had just gotten off work!
 
He did this to a lot of things, including Klaus Schulze ... it made them sound really ... far out ... and coming over a very good FM station stereo signal, made it even better!
2015/11/02 15:30:11
Moshkito
TheMaartian
bitflipper
I will probably spring for the three remixed albums.
 
But what are you supposed to do with a quadraphonic recording?

I'm going to put it in my Oppo disk player and let my Denon AVR figure it out! 

 
Check out, on my web site, the review of Roger Water's The Wall, that I ended up comparing it to the original "The Wall" ... and guess what ... the original comes off better because of the "quadraphonic sound", which in concert went all around you ... and the perfect image was the girl entering the room and seeing the guitars, and in LA is started in the back and it's like you were right next to her in the middle of the room when she said ... look at all those guitars ... and then she takes a few more steps forward. It puts you "there". 
 
There is no music, anywhere, that has ever come close to that, and Guy Guden's forays into his own experiments, were the only thing that made some of these things come off even more than anyone could possibly expect. He called it "audio alchemy" ... but to one's ears ... there was only one word ... HEAVEN ... and sadly, even the albums did not sound as good!
 
I doubt these new things can come close to what I am talking about, and I sincerely wish that more people had heard it, but Guy's show was not a secret for almost 25 years.
2015/11/02 20:26:32
craigb
I think he meant, what do I need to play Quadrophonic recordings on. 
2015/11/03 10:46:40
Moshkito
craigb
I think he meant, what do I need to play Quadrophonic recordings on. 



Your HEAD! And some imagination! But the "reality" of it, is quite different and the experience creates a completely different feeling about the music. There is "more to it" than otherwise, and this is the part that radio and advertising makes you believe is there, and all of a sudden, there is something else ... and it adds to the strength of the work.
 
Sadly, most of this will die like radio ... a forgotten nothing ... meaningless to most people that do not recognize the truth in words. I'm not allowed to copy/share that work.
 
My best example for all this goes back to the Beatles and PF's DSOTM ... the English import was not a copy, as the American pressing of the LP was ... and the quality suffered. So when all these re-bs-masters came around, you got something that sounded just like the original pressings in England ... and there was nothing new in them! Steven Wilson, may have cleaned up King Crimson, but the effect was that the saxophone got moved back away from the front, and another instrument is closer to you, like Robert's guitar ... and to me ... that's crap! The simple moving of the instruments does not make the orchestra better ... it will change the accent for a moment or two because of the inter-mechanics, but in the end ... the whole piece is the same ... nothing new under the sun!
 
For this reason ALONE, a lot of these "new" processes, were best used for NEW music, and things like Tangerine Dream and Klaus Schulze were ready made for those things. They go around and around and create completely different feelings and ideas that "lyrics" can't give you ... but it's hard to discuss this when all we talk about is rock'n'roll, and not the rest.
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