Final Song Update 11/08/13
 
Well, this time I wanted to create something that reflects how we all should have a walk, in this life, worthy of our calling, and how we should be a light in the world to others. There has been to much chaos going on in this world and I don't think some people get it. If we are to love one another, how can we condemn and ridicule others, before we look in the mirror at ourselves and our own faults. Just something for us all to think about before judging others without a cause. I wanted this to be epic and full of a lot of textures and voices, so I hope I accomplished that in this piece. It was a lot of work arranging all of this, but I hope you find it worthy of the message I am trying to convey. As always your comments and critique is always very much appreciated.
 
http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=12540962  "Light Bearers""
 
Peace and Blessings, John

Hey John.  I like the various parts, and the order in which you've arranged them.  However, there seem to be some rhythmic discontinuities when transitioning between them.  Are those intentional, maybe symbolic in some way?  Musically, I find it a little disturbing.
 
Also, the guitar section that comes in (for the first time) from around 1:05 through 1:40 has some kind of warbling/distortion that I don't think is intentional.  Is there a problem with the sample you're using?  Maybe it has too much compression/limiting?  I'm hearing the same problem when that part comes in again around 3:00.

Thanks Walt for listening and commenting on this, I will check it out in the wav files and see what I can do to work on those issues. I most likely don't have them lined up exactly and it could be throwing everything off at those locations. All of the samples were originally created in different beats, but I converted them all to the same FPB. I have a tendency of getting things off a bit because my eye vision isn't the best in the world, especially at 4:30 am. Yes, I was working overtime trying to get this one done, but that's how it goes that early in the morning. Thanks for catching those. Hope the rest sounds alright. Thanks again.
 
Peace and Blessings, John
 
Walt, I did go in and fixed the issues, at least I think I did. One thing was I had Ozone 5 set in analog mode instead of digital mode, make a big difference. Sorry about that. Adjusted all settings, so I hope this sounds better for you. I also removed and moved a few samples around and adjusted the fades in and out where you were describing. Hope this works for you and everyone else as well. Thanks for the heads up.
 
Peace and Blessings, John

John, enjoyed the listen. Lots going on. Very good.

Chas, Thanks for listening and for your comments, they are much appreciated. Lots going on in your work as well.
 
Peace and Blessings, John

theguitarplayer
Thanks Walt for listening and commenting on this, I will check it out in the wav files and see what I can do to work on those issues. I most likely don't have them lined up exactly and it could be throwing everything off at those locations. All of the samples were originally created in different beats, but I converted them all to the same FPB. I have a tendency of getting things off a bit because my eye vision isn't the best in the world, especially at 4:30 am. Yes, I was working overtime trying to get this one done, but that's how it goes that early in the morning. Thanks for catching those. Hope the rest sounds alright. Thanks again.
 
Peace and Blessings, John
 
Walt, I did go in and fixed the issues, at least I think I did. One thing was I had Ozone 5 set in analog mode instead of digital mode, make a big difference. Sorry about that. Adjusted all settings, so I hope this sounds better for you. I also removed and moved a few samples around and adjusted the fades in and out where you were describing. Hope this works for you and everyone else as well. Thanks for the heads up.
 
Peace and Blessings, John

Hi John.  I just listened again and I'm still having trouble counting 1...2...3...4 through the transitions, especially the very first one at around 0:50 (which seems to be off by about 2 beats), but it could just be considered "artistic license" if you like. ;)
 
Also, I'm still hearing that warbling/distortion on the parts I mentioned previously.  I've heard similar noise before when trying to "stretch" an audio clip to a different speed.  Since you mentioned that's what you had done, I'm fairly certain that's the source of the distortion I mentioned.  You could possibly try a different stretching algorithm.  Which plugin(s) did you use to stretch the clips?  Not all stretching algorithms are created equal. ;)

Walt, I convert all tempos and FPB (Frames Per Beat) within the Sonicfire Pro 5 sampler converter. I can also adjust them in Sony Sound Forge Pro 9 but usually never touch it there, because it is already done before using the samples. At 0:50, that is on purpose and intentional, listen to that closer, it end on a note and the keyboards start. As for the guitar sound between 1:05 (keyboards end and strumming of acoustic guitars (2 of them in sync) start with a cymbal splash in background) and 1:40 guitars end and orchestration starts. The acoustic guitars sound exactly the way (I) wanted them to sound for this piece, just like the electric guitars with their distorted gritty sound. I'm not getting what you mean by warbling, for the acoustic guitars, I thought they sounded awesome the way I edited them.
 
I know that this sounds not as good as the 292 mp3 version or the .wav files, but when loading to soundclick it never does sound as good as the original tracks. Could also be the width I used for this with the stereo imaging settings. The exciter imaging and compression and limiting are all good. Equalization, as far as, post-in and post-out are all good and so is the maximization settings. Not a lot of reverb on this and so I don't know what your hearing. Are you using headphone, computer speakers, or reference speakers. I use Truth Reference Speakers with 8" reference speakers in them and these speakers tell the truth. I think it just might be the soundclick player (the freebe one) could be the issue. I'll check it out again, but while typing this I listened to it and checked out those locations your talking about twice and I'm still unclear what your thinking. Anyway, thanks for the concern.
 
Peace and Blessings, John

Hi John.  I listen on my Tannoy Reveal 501a monitors, which I run through a dbx DriveRack (so I'm always listening to a "flat" room EQ).  But that's not the source of the distortion.  It's the sampler conversion errors I'm hearing.  Any time you stretch audio it introduces errors.  I guess I'm just hearing artifacts from the Sonicfire Pro 5 sampler converter you mentioned.  It doesn't sound like a very high quality conversion to me, but I'm nitpicky about such things. ;)  If it's not bothering you then just ignore me. :)

If it's not bothering you then just ignore me. :) Never!! Still checking it out, but have to go out of town for a couple of days. Thanks Walt!
 
Peace and Blessings, John

Hi John
very nice, I love it .I get a very nice sound, of the guitar
I congratulate you and wish you continued success..
 

best regards,
Grup Gezgin