Beepster
I have no interest in getting into one of your long drawn out arguments, Steve.

Huh?
 
You specifically quoted and questioned me - with what was up until then the longest post in this thread.
 
And now that you don't like/donn't understand my reply, you've lost "interest".
 
Er... if you're not up for a bit of intellectual debate, then don't get involved in one.
 
 

Beepster
 
The point was there is NO comparison to what Mesh posted and someone sympathizing with the attackers.
 
None.
 
At all.
 
To even HINT otherwise is ludicrous.

 
I didn't make that comparison at all. I merely stated that any thread started with that particular heading was, in my opinion, flouting the CoC, regardless of the the sypathies of its author. Simple as that, no hidden context, meaning or otherwise.
 
What is so hard to understand here.
 
 
 

Leadfoot

SteveStrummer
please don't ram it down my throat in a public arena.

I would hardly call Mesh offering condolences by saying "thoughts and prayers" ramming it down your throat. Are you really offended that easily? Life must be tough for you.

Life is great thanks.
 
I don't worry about upsetting or ingratiating some fictional 'man in the sky', I prostrate myself before nothing and nobody, and I worry not a jot about what happens to me after I die. It really is a lovely, content state of mind to be in.
 
I do my best to follow the law of the land, and I consider myself a humanist who cares for and about others. I give to charity because hopefully it helps others less fortunate, plus it makes me feel good.
 
How tough is that?
 
And religion and religious folk don't offend me. Far from it. I simply prefer to live as secularly as is possible, and where the rules state that I should be able to enjoy myself without any religion being involved, I prefer those rules to be respected.
 
How hard can all this be to understand?

I am not interested BECAUSE I try not to play as fast and loose with the CoC as you do.
 
To carry on this discussion ANY further would necessitate a whole PILE of TOS violations on my part but trust me... I could counter every single thing you said and back it up with facts.
 
But then I would be the one getting messages from the mods.
 
I said what I intended to say. I meant it... and that is that.

Beepster
It's only when they use it as an excuse to control, hurt, manipulate or engage in any other negative behavior that SOME zealots do in the name of their faith do I have a problem.

This is when things become a problem, for sure. No matter what religion, or belief system. We all have a right to live as we want to in this world (or we should have). We should tolerate and respect one another.
 
From the way things have always been handled here, I have come to believe that the intent of the TOS, no matter how they are written, are meant to deter theological or political debates, which quickly turn nasty and ruin a forum. At least that is the way it seems to me. I think it is a good policy.
 
This forum is as good as it gets.
I cannot think of a single person on the Cakewalk forums that I don't care for.
 
J

One thing I've noticed about these Islamic terrorists is that they all seem to have that same dead look in their eyes in the mugshots. It's a look of pure evil, of contempt for everything in this world. This Farook idiot had a similar look in his eyes to Mohammed Atta, one of the 9/11 hijackers. I honestly think that their belief in ghosts and goblins is so strong that they see this life as some kind of brief inconvenience. Their minds are somewhere in a fictional spirit world and so they have no concern for anything in this life. That's the look I see in their eyes. It's a very dangerous mindset - one that can never be reasoned with, only destroyed. 

jbow
From the way things have always been handled here, I have come to believe that the intent of the TOS, no matter how they are written, are meant to deter theological or political debates, which quickly turn nasty and ruin a forum. At least that is the way it seems to me. I think it is a good policy.
 
This forum is as good as it gets.
I cannot think of a single person on the Cakewalk forums that I don't care for.
 
J

Totally. That is exactly it. I think you and I could have a great, respectful convo even though we may disagree on SOME things (but definitely agree on others) but topics and ideas that may come up would just send the more bombastic internet denizens through the roof and any rational discourse would get drowned out.
 
The internet is such a brilliant and powerful tool with many possibilities for bringing folks together but it also has this nasty side effect of ripping people apart at the same time through irrational, emotional and opinionated whargarble.
 
A music/tech site like this really has no option but to discourage such discussions not because they don't want people to connect and discuss but because inevitably things will, as you said, get nasty if giving half a chance.
 
Cripes... we can get into enough brawls just talking about the software. We don't need no steenkin' politics/religion.
 
lulz
 
Cheers.

I see nothing wrong with the nature of this thread. I do not believe it to be in violation of anything. I do hope that you all keep it civil and respect each other. There is a remedy if you don't.  BTW I am non religious too but I work closely with a nearby Catholic church because they do good things for people.
 
What I would implore you all to do is have tolerance for each other.