2015/10/26 21:05:03
BobF
bapu
And then there are the stories of the 90 year old men and women that ate 4 slices of becan EVERY FRICKEN' DAY and never got cancer. Or the stories of the men and women who were vegetarians and still got cancer.
 
I refuse to live my life by some chart....... unless it says becan is good for me.


 
Exactly.  What is the point to life if you aren't going to live it?
 
When these show up on the list I'll know it's all BS

2015/10/26 21:18:15
batsbrew
funny thing is,
all this information, is OLD information....
 
took the world health organization to finally just say,
what the FDA has known for literally 20 years.....
 
i wonder if they will make bacon manufacturers put a warning label on bacon packages,
like the ciggy's have to do.....
2015/10/27 00:57:25
Rain
I can't count the number of time where some product was introduced as a kind of miracle, cancer preventing food. As it evolves from a fancy fad product to a more mainstream item, then studies start to pop up saying that it has been linked with cancer.
 
Is it possible that the more people eat of a certain thing, the more people who develop cancers will be found to have consumed that product?
 
Just recently, there was some news about antioxidants being linked to the spread of skin cancer. You know what they say - if you look long enough, you will find whatever you are looking for...
 
That being said... I do believe that if you clean up you system from all the years of eating junk and start from scratch, your body tells you what works and what doesn't.
 
I love a bit of red meat, maybe once a week or every two weeks, but the way I feel after ingesting it gives me a fair clue that it's not the most efficient source of nutriment. The other extreme, a quasi vegan diet, aren't as efficient for me as a more balanced diet. 
 
I also believe that not two people process food the same way. 
 
But bacon - and pork... No thanks.
 
As to labels... Every time I buy a piece of equipment for the gym, it comes with a label that says that physical training can cause serious injury or death. I never was issued that type of warning when I indulged in junk food. Tells us about our priorities...
2015/10/27 01:25:10
craigb
Just being alive causes cancer. 
2015/10/27 05:29:00
Rain
craigb
Just being alive causes cancer. 




Couldn't cancer simply be part of evolution? Trial and error. Like a long process of adaptation, over thousands and thousands of years.
2015/10/27 08:30:03
dcumpian
For those who want absolute numbers to understand the risks:
 
The results showed that those who ate the most processed meat had around a 17 per cent higher risk of developing bowel cancer, 
compared to those who ate the least. ‘17 per cent’ sounds like a fairly big number – but this is a ‘relative’ risk, so let’s put it into
perspective, and convert it to absolute numbers. Remember these are all ball-park figures – everyone’s risk will be different as
there are many different factors at play.
We know that, out of every 1000 people in the UK, about 61 will develop bowel cancer at some point in their lives. Those who 
eat the lowest amount of processed meat are likely to have a lower lifetime risk than the rest of the population (about 56 cases
per 1000 low meat-eaters). If this is correct, the WCRF’s analysis suggests that, among 1000 people who eat the most processed
meat, you’d expect 66 to develop bowel cancer at some point in their lives – 10 more than the group who eat the least processed meat.



The guy said in the article if you eat three steaks a week and limit your processed meats you probably have nothing to worry about. Who can afford three steaks a week?  LOL.
 
Regards,
Dan
2015/10/27 08:57:04
Mesh
...mmmmmm.... BECAN!!
2015/10/27 09:25:01
BobF
Rain
craigb
Just being alive causes cancer. 




Couldn't cancer simply be part of evolution? Trial and error. Like a long process of adaptation, over thousands and thousands of years.




That's been the idea at the back of my mind forever.
2015/10/27 09:29:48
jbow
Who wants to live past the point where other people are changing your depends etc... I have seen people live past the point where in a normal society, they would have died a natural death, they were miserable but clinging to life, completely dependent on others and I think I mentioned... miserable. My dad made the best of life. His main diet was whatever he wanted he ate Big Macs and fries, went to Chinese buffets well into his 90s, he did eat turkey bacon, I don't think it made a bit of difference, he died a few months past 96.
Mom on the other hand spent the last (almost) decade of her life blind and with dementia. On a lot of medication and had "sundowners" she would sometimes keep dad up until 5:00AM looking for something, she didn't know what she was looking for but she had to find it. You couldn't stop her. She didn't eat a lot in her last years but when she did she ate whatever she wanted as long as it was good. Someone got them "meals on wheels", it was bad... they would keep the milk and feed the food to cats, foxes, or whatever came up to eat in the yard. I thought it was a bit of an abuse but they did what they did. Oh.. and in the last few years dad ate several bags of Hershey Kisses per week, he would eat them all day long. In the last few years he had a catheter and would get a UTI about twice a year, he HATED to go to the hospital and would rather have stayed home to die every time but my sister (the nurse) would have none of it. She got him kicked out of Hospice twice for going over their, and his, head and sending him to the hospital.
 
Moral? It really don't matter that mush. Genetics matter. Exercise don't even matter very much, if at all. He had three or four angioplasties?, where they put a balloon in the artery and inflate it to fix a blockage. He walked every day once he was diagnosed, still had the blockages. Finally he had a triple bypass, the carotid artery cleaned out, and a pig valve put in his heart. He lived 20 years +/- after than with no exercise and no more problems.
 
We don't live that log here no matter what we do. 70 years? 80 years? 90 years? Some a few years less, some a few more. I say enjoy your life because you are NOT going to hold on to your strength or your life in the end (there are always outliers who enjoy good health until they die of old age and ones who have bad health years before they die).
Enjoy your life, don't make yourself miserable trying to have just a little more of what by that time will likely be the most miserable time of life, with pain and problems, with things that don't work right anymore... it is going to happen anyway.
2015/10/27 09:45:54
Mesh
Taking things in moderation is the key to life........as my dear old dad used to say: 'too much of anything is good for nothing".  
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