Richard Cranium
 
If we care that little, that speaking what is truly on our mind is trumped by whether or not we will get banned from an internet forum of all things . . . then hey . . .

 
The world we live in today demands that the potentially offended be allowed to live in a make believe world where they don't have to hear the truth.

SteveStrummerUK
Let's put matters into some sort of perspective.
 
A handful of tasteless cartoons is enough to set the whole A**b world alight in rabid displays of anger, protest, retribution and murder.
 
Yet 129 completely innocent people are massacred and the silence from a billion and a half M****ms is deafening.
 
Of course, the reason for this is obvious to all but the most belligerent 'head-stuck-in-the-sand' progressive liberal lefty...
 

Nominated for POTD

SteveStrummerUK
Let's put matters into some sort of perspective.
 
A handful of tasteless cartoons is enough to set the whole A**b world alight in rabid displays of anger, protest, retribution and murder.
 
Yet 129 completely innocent people are massacred and the silence from a billion and a half M****ms is deafening.
 
Of course, the reason for this is obvious to all but the most belligerent 'head-stuck-in-the-sand' progressive liberal lefty...

I don't have my "head-stuck-in-the-sand" but this is not something I agree with.
 
You cannot paint the Muslim population with one brush... just as you cannot paint Christians, Hindu's or atheists with one brush. We all have radicals within our groups and beliefs. It's not fair to judge the general population based on those radicals.
 
The reason you don't see the middle east people condemning the violence is because our western news coverage (CNN, CBC, BBC) is not showing that. The reason you see the "entire middle east" go on a rampage over a cartoon is because our news coverage has set its cameras up on a violent group of radicals and shows JUST THAT.
 

craigb
I tend to watch several news stations to both identify and remove as much bias as possible (including Aljazeer's), and thought it interesting how fast leaders from the Middle East put out their own condemnations. 

 
+1
That is the only way to try and get some balance from both western and eastern civilization.
 
It's also not just the leaders that speak out... ISIS is massacring anyone who speaks out against them and tries to stand up to them in Syria and Iraq. There are many INNOCENT "MUSLIM" PEOPLE getting killed in that region by this group... yet some people still insist it is simply "Muslim" that is too blame.
 

codamedia

SteveStrummerUK
Let's put matters into some sort of perspective.
 
A handful of tasteless cartoons is enough to set the whole A**b world alight in rabid displays of anger, protest, retribution and murder.
 
Yet 129 completely innocent people are massacred and the silence from a billion and a half M****ms is deafening.
 
Of course, the reason for this is obvious to all but the most belligerent 'head-stuck-in-the-sand' progressive liberal lefty...

I don't have my "head-stuck-in-the-sand" but this is not something I agree with.
 
You cannot paint the Muslim population with one brush... just as you cannot paint Christians, Hindu's or atheists with one brush. We all have radicals within our groups and beliefs. It's not fair to judge the general population based on those radicals.
 
The reason you don't see the middle east people condemning the violence is because our western news coverage (CNN, CBC, BBC) is not showing that. The reason you see the "entire middle east" go on a rampage over a cartoon is because our news coverage has set its cameras up on a violent group of radicals and shows JUST THAT.
 

Check out the results of the Pew survey of attitudes in the world of Islam. Frightening %'s of people in the Middle East support the idea of terrorist attacks to protect their religion. Something like a third of European Muslims sympathized with the 7/7 London bombers. This translates into millions of people. Clearly we have a clash of cultures that isn't going to be solved with the usual torrent of shopworn platitudes about togetherness and tolerance.

Christopher Hitchens predicted all this coming, ten years ago.

sharke
Check out the results of the Pew survey of attitudes in the world of Islam. Frightening %'s of people in the Middle East support the idea of terrorist attacks to protect their religion. Something like a third of European Muslims sympathized with the 7/7 London bombers. This translates into millions of people. Clearly we have a clash of cultures that isn't going to be solved with the usual torrent of shopworn platitudes about togetherness and tolerance.

One thing I will say is that "terrorism" is downright pure evil. Those are cowardly attacks against innocent civilians.
 
As for the survey results.... I don't see anything recent in that regard. Surveys are a snapshot of time, place and circumstance. What was relevant in July of 2005 is not the same today. Take surveys (especially non current ones) with a grain of salt. You wouldn't buy a DAW today based on a 2005 survey would you?
 
I will reiterate my view. The extremists (ISIS & ruthless dictators) are the problem, not the general population of the middle east.

When you read the accounts of some of the survivors, there is no doubt we are dealing with pure evil.

SteveStrummerUK
Let's put matters into some sort of perspective.
 
A handful of tasteless cartoons is enough to set the whole A**b world alight in rabid displays of anger, protest, retribution and murder.
 
Yet 129 completely innocent people are massacred and the silence from a billion and a half M****ms is deafening.
 
Of course, the reason for this is obvious to all but the most belligerent 'head-stuck-in-the-sand' progressive liberal lefty...
 
 

Where is the freaking 'like' button!

clintmartin

SteveStrummerUK
Let's put matters into some sort of perspective.
 
A handful of tasteless cartoons is enough to set the whole A**b world alight in rabid displays of anger, protest, retribution and murder.
 
Yet 129 completely innocent people are massacred and the silence from a billion and a half M****ms is deafening.
 
Of course, the reason for this is obvious to all but the most belligerent 'head-stuck-in-the-sand' progressive liberal lefty...

 
Where is the freaking 'like' button!

 
I guess I am considered one of those " 'head-stuck-in-the-sand' progressive liberal lefty..." but I don't understand why? Because I prefer the facts?

Enough hate already, I'm calling BS on the highlighted line.... Just saying....
https://www.google.ca/sea...ndemn+attacks+on+paris
 
Please people.... do your homework.... fact check from many sources....

Careful peeps this thread is starting to stomp all over the Code of Conduct even as it is loosely applied here in the coffee house.
 
Thanks.