Doktor Avalanche
 
'I can't dance' .. If ever there was a non musical song, done badly in a non sensicle way, this is it. Producing zero enjoyment.

I liked it. Good vocal on that song. The rhythm is a bit lumpen but it still holds up. That was a pretty good album by and large, even had a couple of those 'longer cuts' that Mosh likes. 'No Son of Mine' is a great song too.

As a kid I quite liked his version of "Can't Hurry Love" - I think I was amused at there being multiple Phil's singing in the video, but also very much liked the melody. To this day I think it's better than the original. 
 
Mama is just a great track though, even with Collins' stupid cackling bits. There's a mid section in the song (starting "Can't you seeeee.....") which is a fantastic example of how much drama you can wring out of a minor chord progression. I love it, stunning piece of songwriting and Phil really belts it out over those chords. 

Moshkito

joakes
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Sorry to disagree, but In the Air is one of the most horrible vocal styles i've ever heard. His voice just grates. And he keeps bringing it out.

No Son of Mine and some of its predessessors is molto better, but there's always that vocal style you either like or don't ! I don't.
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I know, but goodness ... that would make Joe Cocker, Roger Chapman, Rod Stewart, the guy from Acqua Fragile/PFM and so many others not good singers and that is not the case. I don't think of this as a "vocal style" as much as I do, that the person is able to adjust his words to sing with it, and it's hard to say that Chappo is a bad singer when you hear "Gypsy Moon" and so other things. I am not sure it is a style ... I think it's more like ... that's the way it is pal ... this is the voice I got ...

Its all subjective, but the guys you mention have their own distinctive styles, as does Uncle Phil. Totally agree about Mr Chapman. But totally different style to Mr Collins.

FWIW i've had the vinyl version of Cook since it came out, just bought the extended CD version - brilliant !

Cheers,
Jerry

sharke
As a kid I quite liked his version of "Can't Hurry Love" - I think I was amused at there being multiple Phil's singing in the video, but also very much liked the melody. To this day I think it's better than the original. 
 
Mama is just a great track though, even with Collins' stupid cackling bits. There's a mid section in the song (starting "Can't you seeeee.....") which is a fantastic example of how much drama you can wring out of a minor chord progression. I love it, stunning piece of songwriting and Phil really belts it out over those chords. 

 
I remember Collins saying he wanted to do that 'haha' bit after he heard Grandmaster Flash doing it.

I have never personally met Phil Collins, so I can't honestly say what kind of a person he is. Nor do I personally know any of these forum members, but as a human I do form an impression of what you are about by what you write.  With experience I know that my impressions may only be partially right.
 
In honesty, I can regrettably remember more than one time that I came across as being insincere and even pompous. 
 
I have to admit that Phil Collins has accomplished a lot in his career.  I do enjoy some of his older tracks now and again.
 
Life is a journey, hopefully we all learn to get along. 
 
I wish all of you the best
 
Jesse

jamesg1213
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I liked it. Good vocal on that song. The rhythm is a bit lumpen but it still holds up. That was a pretty good album by and large, even had a couple of those 'longer cuts' that Mosh likes. 'No Son of Mine' is a great song too.

I don't dislike those albums ... just not on my favorite list, and by that time, there was far better stuff released all over Europe and America that deserved more attention, in my book. I would never say that Genesis or Phil Collins are not very good artists.

I think when Gabriel left he should have formed a band named Exodus, that would have been hilarious!

I like Phil's voice but I like Jim Morrison, Neil Young and Dylan.
 
There I said it.

bapu
I like Phil's voice but I like Jim Morrison, Neil Young and Dylan.
 
There I said it.

At the SAME time???! 

jamesg1213

sharke
As a kid I quite liked his version of "Can't Hurry Love" - I think I was amused at there being multiple Phil's singing in the video, but also very much liked the melody. To this day I think it's better than the original. 
 
Mama is just a great track though, even with Collins' stupid cackling bits. There's a mid section in the song (starting "Can't you seeeee.....") which is a fantastic example of how much drama you can wring out of a minor chord progression. I love it, stunning piece of songwriting and Phil really belts it out over those chords. 

 
I remember Collins saying he wanted to do that 'haha' bit after he heard Grandmaster Flash doing it.

Grandmaster Flash, Phil Collins is not.