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2017/09/12 04:52:11
AlChuck
I'm working on this project with two guitar tracks. Each has a volume envelope where I have the volume come down when the verses come in and vice-versa. 
Now I want to be able to control the overall level of each track. That is, while the nodes on the envelopes line up so the timing of the ups and downs is as I desire, I might wish to just drop the overall level of one track relative to the other, or both of them relative to the other instrument tracks.
It seems that I can only grab the envelope at individual nodes and move those up and down. Surely there is a way to select the entire envelope and raise or lower it as a whole?
Thanks in advance...
2017/09/12 09:16:07
scook
2017/09/12 09:24:26
Bristol_Jonesey
If Offset mode doesn't work for you (and it CAN be a dangerous tool if you don't switch it off!) then it is possible to select the entire envelope, nodes & all and raise/lower it however much you want.
 
You can do this either in the dedicated Automation Lane or in the Track Lane itself by switching the Edit Filter to the desired automation curve.
2017/09/12 11:05:36
fwrend
How about just adjusting the Gain?
 
 
EDIT: Also, from documentation Working With Automation Envelopes (NOTE, you'll need to place a Node at the end of your track/song if you desire to affect the entire track making sure nothing is selected in the timeline or select everything in the track you want to adjust). You can also use the Move tool.
 
To raise/lower selected envelope nodes
1.  Set the track’s Edit Filter control to the desired automation parameter (Track Automation or Clip Automation).

2.  Do one of the following:

With the Smart tool , position the pointer near the top center of the track/clip, then drag up/down.

With the Edit tool , position the pointer near the top center of the track/clip, then drag up/down.
2017/09/12 11:18:52
scook
Gain could work. It happens before the FX rack and PRoChannel so, it may have some unwanted side-effects.
Another option is adding a volume slider at the end of the effects such as an empty FX Chain.
2017/09/12 11:25:36
fwrend
True Steve, sorry I was editing my post as you were posting.  I knew there was probably some side effect of using Gain.
2017/09/12 16:19:20
AlChuck
Thanks to everyone for the replies! I'll try those tips. As it turns out I nailed the overall level by just adjusting the nodes, but that was very tedious and I don't want to do that again...
2017/09/13 12:09:37
dcumpian
AlChuck
Thanks to everyone for the replies! I'll try those tips. As it turns out I nailed the overall level by just adjusting the nodes, but that was very tedious and I don't want to do that again...




You could also simply record new automation moves over the top.
 
Regards,
Dan
2017/09/13 13:27:04
Bristol_Jonesey
dcumpian
AlChuck
Thanks to everyone for the replies! I'll try those tips. As it turns out I nailed the overall level by just adjusting the nodes, but that was very tedious and I don't want to do that again...




You could also simply record new automation moves over the top.
 
Regards,
Dan


Yep - and you have 3 options to decide how the new automation will be written - Touch, Latch & Overwrite
2017/09/13 16:44:32
dlesaux
You can also click in the upper left hand corner of the track header on the left. That will select the entire envelope. Then you just pull down any node and it will pull all the others down too.
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