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2015/10/01 23:52:44
Susan G
Moshkito...
I would "report" that post to the admins. While not saying it directly, it says it indirectly and you have a right to feel touched by it, as it is indeed shameful and ridiculous ... but it tells you how much admins ignore in these forums ... but then ... Cakewalk, is not exactly helping ... how many women are shown in their list of this and that, and how much credit and thank you are they giving women around here?
 
NONE!...


Hi Pedro-
 
I didn't report that post (and again, that wasn't in a Cakewalk forum, just to be clear,) but I did reply to it.
 
I can't remember ever seeing a female promoting any feature of any DAW except as a singer. Cakewalk follows in that tradition (happy to hear if I'm wrong.)
 
See: http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR/Features#start
 
Years and years (and years!) ago, Turtle Beach used one of those busty cartoon images of a scantily-cald female you typically see on a truck's tire mud flaps to promote their soundcards. I never saw the connection and told them they might be alienating potential customers. They cared deeply ;)!
 
I think *SOME* guys still consider DAWs to be their domain--a boys' club--for whatever reason and won't even accept advice or suggestions from a female until a guy chimes in with exactly the same advice. It's weird, but I've seen it happen for years.
 
Thanks-
 
-Susan
2015/10/02 00:45:56
drewfx1
Susan G
 
I can't remember ever seeing a female promoting any feature of any DAW except as a singer.



Hi Susan,
 
This isn't for a DAW but this video just happened to be released today/yesterday and I posted it earlier in another thread and your post made me think of it.
 
It's for Moog's brand new semi-modular synth - definitely not a "simplistic" product - and 2 of the 3 artists in it are women and, well, nothing at all seems to be made of that fact. So perhaps there is some hope:
 
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCJacEzcU7A
 
2015/10/02 01:01:41
kennywtelejazz
An older BBC News article titled ,
 
 Why are female record producers so rare ?
 
http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-19284058
 
Kenny
2015/10/02 09:21:42
Moshkito
drewfx1
Susan G
 
I can't remember ever seeing a female promoting any feature of any DAW except as a singer.



Hi Susan,
 
This isn't for a DAW but this video just happened to be released today/yesterday and I posted it earlier in another thread and your post made me think of it.
 
It's for Moog's brand new semi-modular synth - definitely not a "simplistic" product - and 2 of the 3 artists in it are women and, well, nothing at all seems to be made of that fact. So perhaps there is some hope:
 
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCJacEzcU7A
 



No wonder no one listens to Kate Bush and many other ladies ... they are too smart and know computers, DAW's and Fairlights when most people are simply ........... with their ........ !!!!!
 
It's a problem with the media that needs to get nailed ... plain and simple!
2015/10/02 12:14:25
jamesg1213
Moshkito
 

No wonder no one listens to Kate Bush and many other ladies ..




The 'Before the Dawn' concert tickets sold out in 15 mins, so I think plenty of people still listen to her.
2015/10/02 16:08:29
craigb
No wonder no one listens to...
 
Oh, nevermind!  
2015/10/02 21:07:16
Susan G
drewfx1
Susan G
 
I can't remember ever seeing a female promoting any feature of any DAW except as a singer.



Hi Susan,
 
This isn't for a DAW but this video just happened to be released today/yesterday and I posted it earlier in another thread and your post made me think of it.
 
It's for Moog's brand new semi-modular synth - definitely not a "simplistic" product - and 2 of the 3 artists in it are women and, well, nothing at all seems to be made of that fact. So perhaps there is some hope:
 
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCJacEzcU7A
 



Hi Drew-
 
Oh, wow, thank you so much for that--really, truly! As you said, the fact that "nothing at all seems to be made" of the fact that two of the three artists are women is huge, IMO! I remember the first time I saw a feminine pronoun used (just dropped in, casually) in a User Manual (it was Geoffrey Francis' REAPER Guide, IIRC) and I was like "Thank you! Maybe it won't always be 'he, him,' forever more!"
 
I also appreciate the fact that those women look like real, regular women, and not like "Oh, these babes are gonna appeal to our male audience."
 
Bravo!
 
-Susan
2015/10/03 11:33:54
Moshkito
Susan G
... 
I also appreciate the fact that those women look like real, regular women, and not like "Oh, these babes are gonna appeal to our male audience."
 ...


let me translate that to you ... "Oh, these babes are gonna appeal to our wallets!"
2015/10/03 12:37:09
tom1

I don't think people's morality has changed over the years. I don't think bigotry, rudeness or hatred are more prevelent today than the past.

The birth of the internet has given us the opportunity to communicate with the world and now we can be honest with our opinions or even insulting without facing people face-to-face.

If I'm on line at the store and two people are talking about a politician they love I'm not going to risk an argument or worse and say that candidate is a crook. Even if I believe that is the case. On the internet, I'm much more likely to give my opinion.

If we had to actually meet the people we correspond with, I think our posts would be much less controversial and that wouldn't change no matter the decade.
2015/10/03 19:17:37
craigb
I prefer to say that all the politicians, except one, are corrupt. That way none of them are individually offended. 
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