Moshkito
... it's a lousy thing if you look at the mirror every morning and only see a monkey! 

 
Unless you're Daryl, he likes monkeys. 
 

craigb

Moshkito
... it's a lousy thing if you look at the mirror every morning and only see a monkey! 

 
Unless you're Daryl, he likes monkeys. 

The monkey that played with the toothpaste was way better than Daryl. Or your joke, for that matter ... we need to polish those up, with more fluoride!
 (... hint ... Ronald Reagan)

Moshkito

sharke
Frank Zappa never listened to any of his music again after he recorded it.

I doubt it ... because he redid everything over and over and this is part of the problem with the Zappa Trust right now and not knowing how to address the 55 different versions of Farts in Regaglia ... !!! And many of them are totally different, as an example.

Not necessarily - Zappa frequently recorded different versions of the same song, but you're forgetting that he had all the parts written out on a staff. That's how he wrote. Zappa once said that the key to his talent was that he was good at "organizing stuff" - give him some stuff, and he would organize (arrange) it.

I remember reading that he didn't relisten to his stuff in an interview. In other words, when Zappa was relaxing of an evening, he wouldn't think "hmm, I fancy listening to One Size Fits All tonight."

codamedia
Can you image being a parent (or grandparent) around 1950. Popular music went from big band orchestra to Rock n' Roll. "String of Pearls" to "See you later Alligator" in less than 10 years. That would have been considered a tremendous "dumbing down" of music at the time. I think that must have been very hard to accept as an adult.

Sadly, the biggest problem for most people was the idea that their kids were listening the "black music". It's what Sam's idea for promoting Elvis was based on... bringing "black music" to white people... I'm glad he did but there was a huge pushback from parents and older DJs at first.
I don't know what we need now. I was at a restaurant a couple weeks ago and was thinking "what is that horrible music", then I noticed a 20something girl mouthing all the words while she was getting her food.... then I knew. It's like technology, you roll with it or it will roll over you. Thankfully, we have REORDINGS... (and Spotify).
 
@Craig... most of Zappa's guitar solos on his studio albums are dubbed from live performances. It's where he played best. I imagine the early stuff was studio though.
 
J

jbow
Thankfully, we have REORDINGS... (and Spotify).
J

Yep ... now if I knew what reordings were, I would agree faster ... but Spotify is another spam list for me!

Moshkito

jbow
Thankfully, we have REORDINGS... (and Spotify).
J

Yep ... now if I knew what reordings were, I would agree faster ... but Spotify is another spam list for me!

Jbow's keyboard needs to B#-er. 

jbow
@Craig... most of Zappa's guitar solos on his studio albums are dubbed from live performances. It's where he played best. I imagine the early stuff was studio though.
 

 
His solo on Inca Roads from One Size Fits All is probably in my top 3 all time favorite guitar solos and certainly in the top 3 of Zappa's best (along with the one on Montana). That one was definitely lifted from a live recording, and it just amazes me how good Zappa was at splicing tape together to make it sound so utterly seamless. 
 

To me there is no one better than Tony Rice when it comes to guitar picking. If you have never heard him, here are links to two YouTube videos - one from his younger days and one from 2011. It ain't rock, it pure grass!!
 
Church Street Blues - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JFgC3Ub10E
 
Wayfaring Stranger - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPOzgNHr2dk
(The mandolin solo is pretty good in this one too!)
 

Hi,
 
Mandolin ... thought I would let you know that while that guy is good, there are hundreds of pickers in the streets of Barcelona and Madrid that can make that guy go ... wow!
 
They are, simply, all different, and the picking is not really the issue ... it's the heart behind it, otherwise the flower wilts before it blooms!

Moshkito
 
They are, simply, all different, and the picking is not really the issue ... it's the heart behind it, otherwise the flower wilts before it blooms!

I would agree. As I heard someone say, "It is not us that make the music, but rather the music that makes us."