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2013/08/15 23:05:18
darylcrowley
I saw the bit about the 359.   That guitar is drop dead gorgeous.  The size of a PRS with all the dripping custom coolness that is an ebony fretboard custom Gibson.   Yea, that's a real sweet semi hollow guitar.  I just had to comment because I do really like the 359.
 
Daryl
2013/08/16 08:07:01
kennywtelejazz
darylcrowley
I liked the clean one only because it was a better tone for what you were doing.  I liked the fusion version but I thought the tone was a little thin, good but thin.
 
Both versions are excellent.  Your sense of timing I would kill for.
 
Daryl




Hi Daryl,
please accept my apology  to you for taking so long to get back here  ....I've been swamped ... 
 
I pretty much have to agree w you and others that the clean tone was better for what I was doing ...
 
oh btw ...they score 0 , 1 , 2 ....
 
0 is it sucked  1 is good job  and 2 is excellent job 
 
my score was a   .........., 
 
after posting this clip , i wound up asking myself ......what is this clip anyway ?
 
it's a clip of a tune I hadn't played before ...it was part of my class ,
also it was a great song for me to learn since some really good musicians play it ....
 
you know Daryl ,
there is so much about this clip and my performance that I wish I could have changed ...
yet, that in itself is actually what has become the whole beauty of having done this clip in the first place ...
in the beginning,  a big part of the challenge was learning the song , i started first by learning the melody and chord changes .
then I had to decide on what harmonic approach to take in my guitar playing ....
what scales do i play ?, what substitutions do i want to play over the changes ...what do i have to practice to be able to play this song fluidly at tempo while improvising a guitar solo ?. 
 
when it came to record I was basically recording my best attempts of the type of the lines I had practiced over the chord changes .... 
I'm left with a situation where the best thing I can do is to move on from how I feel about what i did ....
did this thing on a deadline whew.....
I'm conflicted , I know i can do better , yet the only way to get past this feeling is to accept that what I played in the heat of the moment (crappy recording or not ) was decent enough to stretch my limits as a player and show me the place where I could take it if I put in the work to get there....
once i get through this class I'm hoping to redo this song as a full out production ....
thanks for being a friend
 
Kenny 
 
 
 
 
2013/08/16 08:36:52
kennywtelejazz
timidi
Hi Kenny. i like the fuzz version better. Just because you played it better.
Plus the clean sound was too compressed sounding like you wanted it to be fuzzed......
Nice work. Is Spain next? 




Hi Timothy ,
The SG w P 90's that I'm playing is a real blast to play , especially after wrestling around for a while with my Jazz Box  
yes the clean guitar was over compressed ....
I was playing very softly as far as the electric end of the thing go's and I was plugged in direct.
I didn't hear that my mixer had a hot setting on the compressor .. 
it was 3 am in the morning when I did this 
 
thanks for giving this a listen 
 
Spain ...hhhmmm a few fellas here have recorded Spain ...Frank did Spain I think 
 
my next tune due in a few days is a tune called Memories of Tomorrow written by Keith Jarrett  ...
I've only played a few sections of it so far  still learning it ,  
I'm seriously gonna be doing a compression check after every take when it comes time to record this one
 
Kenny
2013/08/16 11:09:48
Rikkie
Hi Kenny, I like the clean version, although you really should make the guitar louder, it's the star of the show.
 
I'm never happy with anything I record but this just spurs me on to do better next time.  For me a recording is just a snapshot in time, this is how badly I played at that moment ; )
 
Rik
2013/08/20 09:46:27
kennywtelejazz
The Band19
I read through before I listened, and tried not to let the opinions of some of my heroes effect my own. 
 
I personally think that US Americans, and such as? would like the smooth sound better, but with the modifications pointed out above regarding attack and in general potential other options available (verb, delay, etc..) For me the whole smooth jazz vibe fits better with that sound. Not that the other was objectionable? It's purely subjective I guess.
 
Good job either way, I couldn't do it.
 
*Maybe if we all had more maps we could help the South Africa, and the Iraq and such as?




Hi Robbie , 
sorry to leave you hanging on this thread for so long ...it wasn't on purpose ...
 
I actually learned at lot by putting this one up as two distinctly different versions playing wise ....
 
what I might enjoyed playing to let off a little steam and bust a nut , might not always be the very thing that people enjoy listing too ....
 
Yeah , I agree .....it sounds better as smooth jazz .....a redo w a much better mix and playing might be the ticket  
 
Robbie , thanks for giving this song a listen and offering your comments ....
 
Kenny
2013/08/20 09:49:16
kennywtelejazz
bayoubill
I prefer the clean version Kenny. Sounds great!




Hi bayoubill , thank you very much for giving my playing on this song a listen 
 
Kenny
2013/08/20 09:55:26
kennywtelejazz
twisted6s
Both are cool but I'm a sucker for those Jazz tones!!




Hi Tony , 
I'm also a sucker for the Jazz tones ...
I keep practicing and trying my best to play them...one of these days 
Thank you 
 
Kenny
2013/08/20 10:15:32
kennywtelejazz
darylcrowley
I saw the bit about the 359.   That guitar is drop dead gorgeous.  The size of a PRS with all the dripping custom coolness that is an ebony fretboard custom Gibson.   Yea, that's a real sweet semi hollow guitar.  I just had to comment because I do really like the 359.
 
Daryl




Hi Daryl, 
 
I really have to try out a Gibson 359 one of these days ...I have seen them on display at my local music store.... 
 
They sure look Sweet  
 
Kenny
2013/08/20 10:39:17
kennywtelejazz
Rikkie
Hi Kenny, I like the clean version, although you really should make the guitar louder, it's the star of the show.
 
I'm never happy with anything I record but this just spurs me on to do better next time.  For me a recording is just a snapshot in time, this is how badly I played at that moment ; )
 
Rik




Hi Rik, 
I'm very happy you liked the clean version ..I feel it shows promise ..
 
at some point I feel another go at 500 Miles High is the only way I'm gonna find peace  w this tune 
 
thanks Rik 
 
Kenny
 
 
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