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2015/09/25 19:43:14
sharke
I don't even really know about to go about describing this because it's so messed up. 
 
I use my personal Gmail account for Amazon (the US store). My email address is, for the sake of argument, myname@gmail.com. Recently I got an email from amazon.co.uk thanking me for opening an account there. I didn't. And almost immediately afterwards, a constant stream of amazon.co.uk emails that are basically receipts for Android apps that someone has downloaded from Amazon.co.uk.  Most of them are free but the occasional paid. It's all the kind of crap that young girls download - fashion model games, wedding planner games, Bubble Pop this, Makeup Artist that. But the email address the receipts are sent to is stated as myname@googlemail.com. And the name associated with this email address is the same as my name, only with a different middle name. 
 
So what's basically happened is that someone has the same email address as me only it's googlemail.com instead of gmail.com. Apparently the two are interchangeable, in that if you have yourname@gmail.com you can also use yourname@googlemail.com. But seemingly this person was able to sign up for the exact same Google user name as mine, only with googlemail instead of gmail. I have no idea why anyone should be able to do such a thing, but there it is. 
 
So armed with this virtual clone of my email address, this person has signed up for an Amazon.co.uk account, and I get their freaking receipt emails. I have also gotten an email from Apple confirming the creation of an Apple ID with this googlemail email account. Of course I can't sign into their Amazon.co.uk or Apple account because I don't have their password. And at least I'm not paying for any of this crap because I don't see any charges coming off the bank account I use for Amazon. 
 
Confusing isn't it? It's like Amazon knows that the two email addresses are different because the Amazon.co.uk account isn't linked to my Amazon.com account and they are not linked to the same bank account. But Google sees the two email addresses as the same, and sends me their email. But does this person get my emails too? It's all very creepy and gives me the jitters. 
 
Of course there is no "I received this email in error" link in the Amazon.co.uk emails, it's a do-not-reply address. And I guess I could contact gmail about the problem, but getting through to that company is like requesting an audience with the Pope. 
 
But overall it's not good that something like this could happen, not good at all. If gmail and googlemail accounts are interchangeable, then how come someone was able to open a googlemail account with a user name that I already use for gmail (and have used since gmail was started in 2004)? And why would they send me their emails to my gmail account? You like to think that something like an email account is infallible, but here I am in 2015 listening into someone else's communication like it's the 1970's and I'm listening to the neighbor's phone calls over a party line (which I remember doing as a kid )
 
Anyone else have any experience with crap like this? 
2015/09/25 20:01:38
sharke
And just to clarify, I'm aware that someone could have just opened those accounts using a mistyped email address. But if this was the case, surely they would have had to click on some confirmation link to activate the account? I'm not sure you can just put any old email address into Amazon and start ordering stuff without clicking on a confirmation email first. 
 
And the other weird thing is that in the "to" field of the email address, it states THEIR full name (as in This Person's Name <myname@googlemail.com>) And that name is basically my name but with a middle name added. I've read pages and pages of Google help docs and discussions of this nature on the Gmail forums, and everyone insists that nobody else can possibly sign up for a Googlemail account using the same user name as the one you use for your Gmail account. Not possible at all, according to these experts. Yet I'm getting emails addressed to my user name @googlemail.com, but with THEIR proper name listed instead of mine. I presume that proper name is taken from the name that you have in your profile - well, there is obviously a SEPARATE profile for this googlemail.com email address, which has a different name listed than mine. 
 
I'm 100% certain I've lost 99% of you by this point 
2015/09/25 20:23:29
lawajava
Sorry to hear that.  I suggest it's worth the effort to put a stop to it, even if that means requesting an audience with the Pope (who I hear is in town by the way).
2015/09/25 20:49:27
drewfx1
sharke
I'm 100% certain I've lost 99% of you by this point 




No I think I've got it - you've explained in detail how the "fashion model games, wedding planner games, Bubble Pop this, Makeup Artist that" ended up on your phone. 
2015/09/25 22:31:43
craigb
I don't think you should have used "myname@gmail.com" in the first place. 
 
Maybe you should?
  • Call Amazon
  • Contact Google
  • Block the address in your email client
  • Stop buying little girl stuff from the UK 
2015/09/25 23:46:25
sharke
lawajava
Sorry to hear that.  I suggest it's worth the effort to put a stop to it, even if that means requesting an audience with the Pope (who I hear is in town by the way).




He is. I scored some great weed off him 
2015/09/25 23:46:39
sharke
drewfx1
sharke
I'm 100% certain I've lost 99% of you by this point 




No I think I've got it - you've explained in detail how the "fashion model games, wedding planner games, Bubble Pop this, Makeup Artist that" ended up on your phone. 




Damn. Busted.....
2015/09/25 23:47:35
sharke
craigb
I don't think you should have used "myname@gmail.com" in the first place. 
 
Maybe you should?
  • Call Amazon
  • Contact Google
  • Block the address in your email client
  • Stop buying little girl stuff from the UK 




I hate the idea of calling these companies because it's usually such a frustrating experience and I have no confidence in being able to explain it to them.....I mean look at the mess I made of explaining it here 
2015/09/26 01:29:46
craigb
Have someone send porn to that other address and have it say your name along with "Here are the images you ordered!  You are signed up for the Weekly Sex Pack.  Enjoy!"
 
Then THEY will cancel their email address and you won't have to do anything.
 
(J/K I think... )
2015/09/26 02:44:39
jamesg1213
Presumably then, the other person isn't get any information from Amazon regarding their orders; would it be worth contacting them and telling them the situation? They might just re-set their account email if you let them know.
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