2015/09/12 13:50:48
bayoubill
I can't make my mind up about Windows 10. The bottom line is : How will or does it affect on Sonar? Will everything function the same? I need verdicts! Whom made the plunge and how is it working? PLEASE PLEASE HELP! For the love of all that is holy! I Am stupido and that can't be fixed! I must have guidance. 
2015/09/12 14:05:11
Ham N Egz
bayoubill
I can't make my mind up about Windows 10. The bottom line is : How will or does it affect on Sonar? Will everything function the same? I need verdicts! Whom made the plunge and how is it working? PLEASE PLEASE HELP! For the love of all that is holy! I Am stupido and that can't be fixed! I must have guidance. 


you can restore if its not your cup of tea\\\just do it
2015/09/12 14:14:04
Beepster
Hiya, Bill. As you may or may not know I scour this forum daily and based on that the general consensus seems to be Win10 works fine (if not better) with Sonar. It has been tested by the Baker and a ton of users have made the switch.
 
What you SHOULD be concerned about though is whether your hardware will work with it. Essentially does your interface, external gear, system and any other dealiemadoodles have solid Win10 drivers.
 
Also if you use other programs on the same system are THEY Win10 ready.
 
So yeah... Sonar is likely safe with Win10 and from what I've read should even perform better than with 7 or 8. It's all the other crap we use that you have to do some research on.
 
I have NOT upgraded to 10. I am quite content with 7 for now on my DAW because it works and want to try out 10 on my laptop first to see how annoying it is (I am easily annoyed by Windows f*ckery). I also want to keep an eye on some of this incessant "forced update/home phone" crap that is being reported (but can supposedly be avoided by PAYING for the Enterprise edition... which unfortunately removes some functionality of the consumer versions but likely would not affect audio production... I think).
 
You may not have the same concerns I do though (which are mostly paranoia and disliking change silliness) and just want the reported performance boost (which is likely significant if you are still on 7 and maybe slightly not so much if you are on 8).
 
Maybe, and this requires some minor smart guy futzing, see if you can install 10 on a partition temporarily to test it with all your hardware without wiping out whatever install you currently have on your system.
 
OR create a system image before doing the Win10 install and if it's all fuxxored you can go back to your previous set up (use Acronis or something for that or multiple image backup methods just to be safe).
 
I have also heard tell of an included rollback system used by Win10 but I don't think I would really trust that over a properly made image.
 
One other thing I am not enthused about doing is the "upgrade" as opposed to "full clean install" thing. I would rather start fresh with a clean install of a new OS instead of the "in place upgrade" method but I still need to research all that a little more.
 
Anyhoo... you have plenty of time before the free upgrade offer expires and Win10 will likely get some needed tweaks in the next few months anyway so take some time to research how it's gonna play with your hardware and make some retreat plans in case you simply don't like it.
 
That's pretty much all I can offer you as an outsider to the 10 club. I think Baps is up on 10 though and being the SMRT dood he is can offer some good insights (as can the other SMRT doods here).
 
Good luck.
2015/09/12 15:08:57
Moshkito
Hi,
 
Frankie says ... you must have dope ... wait ... gueeeetarrrr!
 
I have not had any issues with it ... but I was prepared and made sure the computer was ready for it.
 
Here's my checklist: (2 more machines to do!)
 
1. No files of yours whatsoever saved in the machine! Pull them to CD or another machine! Safer that way.
 
2. Uninstall/clean as much as possible. If you only have Windows and the Firewall program, you are likely at its safest point. make a list of programs and such, if you have to go download the VST's again, for example! I do not know, if there are, or not, any issues with Sonar or any musical software, but I presume that they should be just fine. But, re-installing might be safer, right after the Firewall, for example. Others here can tell you better than I on that.
 
3. You do not have to uninstall any programs -- GENERALLY -- however, some of them have to be re-installed anyway. For ex: on one of my machines, I only had World of Warcraft, anyway. Big deal!
 
4. Drivers -- Video. Have it ready on the Hard Drive and make sure these are on a separate folder, and so on. My NVidia GTX 970 did not install properly on W10 as Windows did not bother to look for the proper drivers and set things up right and I came back up from it all in 640x480. On the other machine with the GTX 760 (can't even remember now!) had no issues.
 
4A. Drivers -- Motherboard and other peripherals. Some older motherboards MIGHT require new drivers. Make sure you check BEFORE even considering updating the Windows on it. However, this might take all the fun out of it, since some MB folks are well known to be jerks and not offer updated drivers, despite knowing there is an issue with it.
 
5. Network -- I did not lose any network connectivity to my other machines, and did not have to redo anything. However, W10, STILL has the same stupid issues that it can't find one machine, and you have to go to the other machine and click on network and look at this one, and then things come up fine! That is, by far the worst networking setup and design I ever saw!
 
6. Privacy settings ... on the install it asks you and I did "Custom", and turned everything off and figure I can turn anything on I want when I want or need it. This, is a biggie on the net right now, so I thought I would mention it.
 
7. Browser. Clean all the history, forms, temp, passwords, everything! Both on Chrome and IE, and so forth.
 
AFTER it all the install, I added whatever I needed. All my files are not in any of the network computers, btw ... they are all on Enclosures, duplicated. I use 3 enclosures, I try not to save anything on the computer whatsoever.
 
8. Failure. Each of my computers is setup, so that if the update/install fails, it won't hurt anything that I do, except waste another hour. Thus, the less you have, the less you have to redo on any machine. At the same time, I do not have to worry about redoing my whole computer, because the whole thing screwed up. To me, this is important, because the re-image this and that and this and that, is an endless bunch of geek'ery for me, that I do not care to engage in, and does not make my computer skills any better or worse. In fact, if one of my old roomies was an issue, he had a love/hate relationship with ______________ because he redid that thing 2 or 3 times a week, and had to have his 1,000 partitions and so on! Nowadays, Hard Drives are so cheap that having partitions is down right silly and not even faster, than the alternatives. The external solutions these days are safer and more reliable, in general. This last part, is my OPINION, and some netadmins might disagree with me, and I have no bone or issue with that at all.
 
This has been my experience , and I do have the disks for W8 if I need them to redo a machine, when, I hope that I can do this directly to W10 ... which is still an issue for me, and it probably means I have to purchase one disk with W10, so I can simplify the setup any time thereafter. Hard drives do crank down once in a while!
2015/09/12 15:53:13
bayoubill
THANKS FOR THE INPUT EVERYONE!!!!
 
 
MM100 - I have an Edirol FA-66 Firewire audio interface. Windows 10 doesn't recognize it. I have Downloaded the Edirol+fa+66+driver+windo.ace file but don't know how to set it up. 
2015/09/12 15:55:43
bayoubill
Pedro - Why do you suggest clearing the browser?
2015/09/12 16:56:57
Ham N Egz
bayoubill
THANKS FOR THE INPUT EVERYONE!!!!
 
 
MM100 - I have an Edirol FA-66 Firewire audio interface. Windows 10 doesn't recognize it. I have Downloaded the Edirol+fa+66+driver+windo.ace file but don't know how to set it up. 


bayoubill
THANKS FOR THE INPUT EVERYONE!!!!
 
 
MM100 - I have an Edirol FA-66 Firewire audio interface. Windows 10 doesn't recognize it. I have Downloaded the Edirol+fa+66+driver+windo.ace file but don't know how to set it up. 


a quick look at rollys page gives driver for win 7 64 bit and win 8 32 bit only .. but are you using legacy fw or the TI chipset(assuming ur FW is TI?)


 
2015/09/12 21:12:48
bayoubill
I downloaded and chose custom install. Somehow about 12 other programs installed in the background without me knowing. I've been fighting www search com and other hijack #@)($
 I restored win 7 and am trying to get rid of all the other programs. I also got a call from someone telling me I had called to help fix win 10. I thought for a sec and can't tell you what I said. What a scam
2015/09/12 21:29:30
bayoubill
I ran malware bytes and it picked up a count of 335. 7 of them trojans
2015/09/12 23:27:40
ampfixer
You are the only person I've seen post that Win 10 installed malware or extra programs. You must have gotten the files from some hack site. The fact that you got a phone call is also very telling. Microsoft just wouldn't do that. Some how you got redirected into scam land.
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