2015/09/13 18:46:20
yorolpal
10 just finished upgrading on my "tester" laptop 15 minutes ago. Nothing on it but Sonar, Open Office and CCleaner. Will check it out but initially I like it...no tiles...just my regular desktop...loading and operating quite rapidly.
2015/09/13 19:38:27
MandolinPicker
Just finished doing the auto update from Windows 8.1 here as well. We also downloaded the ISO file so we can do a clean install at a later date if desired.
 
Once it was done with the update, we unplugged the Internet cable. When we rebooted, Windows turned on the built-in WiFi. This was surprising as we had disabled this a long time ago as it interfered with Sonar. We went into the Device Manager and disabled it and during the next reboot it stayed off.
 
As far as the look of Win 10, it seems to be going backwards. Everything is very flat. Only the shadows of the windows give them any type of 3D appearance. The task bar at the bottom is also rather small, especially compared to the task bar in W7 or W8/8.1.
 
Another interesting item we noticed is that the 'Music App' only plays if visible. If I start a song playing and then minimize the app, the song fades out and it stops playing. The best I can do reduce the size of the app, but I can't make it too small. Weird behaviour.
 
I know a lot of folks have said they noticed it is quicker, but I am not seeing this. It is taking significantly longer to boot up and shut down. It seems like some of the programs take a bit longer to load up as well.This may be due to this being an update and not a clean install.
 
I have also noticed sometimes the screen flashes as I move windows around. Beginning to think this may be a driver issue and will be looking into that. Haven't had any issues with Sonar X3e yet,but haven't played with it to any great extent.
 
We will play with this for a while. Security in W10 is my main concern, and since I have no control over the updates (it is the Home edition) and we are still finding out about stuff MS is doing without consent, for me the best option was simply unplug it from the net. I am now doing all my Internet stuff through Linux Mint on the laptop. We are going to try this for a while. If it seems to work, we will do a clean install on the desktop with Windows 10.
 
That's my first impressions anyway.
2015/09/14 16:01:16
bayoubill
I disconnected from the internet and cleaned everything. I took a shower too! When I ran Microsoft Security Essentials it detected yeti another Trojan. This was a very bad one.
I deleted my restore points and created a new one with no malware present named post win 10 
Everything is running quite well right now 
 I think I'll go make a samich 
2015/09/14 19:36:15
Moshkito
bayoubill
Pedro - Why do you suggest clearing the browser?




Wasted space in the Hard Drive.
 
Save your links, on a Notepad file, or equivalent, if you need to, but in general, I do not like the browser saving everything as it does, so it can show me, again, another advertising for Musician's Friend, or equivalent.
 
My thought always was, the less there is in it, the better off you are.
2015/09/14 19:39:03
Moshkito
bayoubill
I ran malware bytes and it picked up a count of 335. 7 of them trojans




At that point, my recommendation is start over from scratch, including your earlier Windows. That crap does not clear up in its entirety, and you want a clean machine for music. Thus, Windows, and then Firewall, then the Windows Updates. 
2015/09/14 19:40:44
Moshkito
slartabartfast
Where the hell did you get your Win 10 installation files from? The automatic download via MS Update should certainly be clean, unless some malware genius has found a way to counterfeit that download. The only other source is Microsoft, and it seems pretty doubtful that their servers have been hacked. Unless the system you upgraded was already infected, it is difficult to see where the malware came from. Some details might help others avoid this problem.

 
And Microsoft will only do this to registered versions of Windows? All 4 W8 machines had Windows purchased on my machines.
2015/09/14 19:44:02
Moshkito
bayoubill
Thank you Doktor! I'm very turned off about upgrading now. I spoke to a tech here in town and he said win 7 will be good thru 2020 so I can keep what I have.
... 
I have everything as it was and I'm leaving it that way. Thanks everyone for the input and advice!!!
 

 
The only version of W7 that will likely stay, might be the PROFESSIONAL versions, because so many folks have the Enterprise version on their machines. I doubt they will bother with W7 home editions after next year, if they have not already stopped issuing updates to it.
 
I would NEVER trust the home editions.
2015/09/14 19:46:30
Moshkito
MandolinPicker
... 
Once it was done with the update, we unplugged the Internet cable. When we rebooted, Windows turned on the built-in WiFi. This was surprising as we had disabled this a long time ago as it interfered with Sonar. We went into the Device Manager and disabled it and during the next reboot it stayed off.
... 
 



I had the Wi-Fi disabled on the router ... and Windows had no chance!
2015/09/15 21:14:04
Doktor Avalanche
MandolinPicker
Another interesting item we noticed is that the 'Music App' only plays if visible. If I start a song playing and then minimize the app, the song fades out and it stops playing. The best I can do reduce the size of the app, but I can't make it too small. Weird behaviour.

Drop it:
http://www.jriver.com/
 
@bayoubull as Moshkito  and myself says (#26 and #16), probably time for a clean install. If you downloaded a dodgy copy of Windows and you rolled back, you are still screwed IMHO, even after a virus/malware scan. Backup your data and start again. Once you have a clean install make sure you scan your data again before you use it or start copying over.
2015/09/15 21:49:18
bayoubill
Dok I found out there is no upgrade driver for the Edirol FA-66 in Windows 10 yet.
 
Do you mean a clean install of Windows 7? I have the disc for Windows 7.
 So ;
1.Clean install of Windows 7
2. then Firewall (I'm not sure what this means. I have malware bytes and Microsoft Security Essenials
3.Windows Updates? 
 
P.S. I have Cakewalk Projects and Music etc. on a S drive on my PC. 
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