2015/08/28 10:21:38
Mesh
synkrotron
Mesh
will check out TD



Meshy! Checking out TD is a task in itself dood! Depends which "era" you start at...


Oh?
Where would a 'virgin' TD listener start at?
2015/08/28 10:30:21
synkrotron
Ah! Do you mean "Virgin" as in the record label?
 
In which case, that would be Phaedra, which is a decent starting point for that particular era , although my fave is Rubycon...
 
 
2015/08/28 10:42:11
Mesh
Thanks Andy & Adrian!!
2015/08/28 11:01:49
Moshkito
Hi,
 
wow Mesh ...
 
I have never thought of your ability to play guitar, or Strummy's or Bapu's or anyone else's, as a "weakness" or a "strength". That is not true in any sense of the word at all!
 
You have jammed and learned via rock music, but you never tried playing your guitar with the 1812 Overture, or Nights on Bare Mountain, or with Eroica, or with Vaughn Williams ... which would have helped you learn something else ... that would get away from the song structure idea and concepts that are only a few minutes long ... and you would teach yourself a few different things that would not fit the process of a rock song.
 
Jazz in America has a funny way about this, and sometimes a lot of lounge lizard jazz is just scales and notes on a theme, because the ability to fly around anything is different, and many times, the guitar is the lead instrument setting up the piece of music, and not exactly a piece of music that is a trip for all the players! Everyone is secondary to someone else, and this has a tendency to limit your ability to take off and experiment in my book, even though Miles made an art out of this and then some!
 
You might want to start checking out the stuff that Manuel Gottsching has done, for example, and if you want to see a guitar going crazy, just get "In Blue" with Klaus Schulze. Some might say that it is just a jam, but when you hear it, it doesn't feel like a jam at all. All of a sudden, you get a feeling, that there is more to an instrument, and music ... that is NOT a SONG ... and I think this is the only thing that you want to look at ... and at that point, is when rock/blues can either extend itself (progressive) ... or die doing the same thing.
 
So I say ... learn to jam with something else ... put on Debussy! Put on the Cement Machine (Faust joke!!!), and later, you even learn to play sight unseen on anything ... you catch a chord, note or feeling and off to the races you are! 
2015/08/28 11:23:18
Mesh
Thanks Mosh....will check those out.
 
Yes, I for one do need to expand my horizons as I do get stuck in ruts ('weakness"), but then again, I also play by ear and prefer (greatly) to just improvise/jam with anything musical/melodic (possibly "strength"??).
 
Sorry Adrian.............back to the topic of this thread. 
2015/08/28 13:34:10
synkrotron
biodiode
Couple of youtube links you may want to check out for TD
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuN12dVmsT0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd6XL_IOS3I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9wo0cqq_Mk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQpAJUZeIAY
 




A nice selection there Adrian... I've not listened to Ricochet for years... I used to love that album, next to Rubycon. Tangram was good too.
 
Here is Alpha Centauri:-
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi2Oj-P70NM
 
Worth a listen, just for the sake of TD history...
2015/08/28 14:04:34
biodiode
In my view the late 70's to mid eighties were the best. I think what did it for me was Chris Franke and his sequencing with the moog modular e.t.c
2015/08/28 15:14:45
jamesg1213
Rubycon is a stunning album, that was my first TD record. Ricochet was pretty good too, got that afterwards.
2015/08/28 16:11:10
craigb
Mesh
synkrotron
Mesh
will check out TD



Meshy! Checking out TD is a task in itself dood! Depends which "era" you start at...


Oh?
Where would a 'virgin' TD listener start at?




Wow...  Just wow...  Pick a decade, even parts of a decade are completely different!  Plus they made a LOT of albums (I have 180 - yeah, really, 180!).  They were always one of my favorite bands.
 
For your first, let's start off with something middle of the pack (and one of my favorites):  Melrose
 
Next, some old 60's acid weirdness:  Rubycon
 
Want something with a beat?  Try:  Dream Mixes One
 
Other favorites of mine include Goblin's Club, Lily on the Beach, Exit, Rockoon...  Just scratching the surface! 
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