2015/09/29 15:03:31
Sidroe
That seems to be a minor niggle about the key click. I must comment also that the developer himself took care of me personally when I needed support for VB3. I couldn't get the 32 bit version to take the registration code so I fired off an email and he responded very quickly! I was up and running in no time! I would write his name here but I know I would really mutilate the spelling. LOL!
2015/09/29 15:41:57
Glyn Barnes
Well you talked me into it
 
I tried the demo again and decided to buy it. I did not realise that the sustain pedal can be assigned to the rotor speed, is that new or was it always the case. There are certainly a lot of configuration options. I had forgotten how good it was, I only passed it by initally as there was no 64 bit version so I opted for NI's Vintage Organs instead (which has its own strengths).
 
I have been fighting off a totally illogical desire to upgrade my UVI Retro Organs library before the price goes up. This is much better value for money.
2015/09/29 16:24:19
Beagle
bitflipper
Thanks for the tip, Sidroe. No, contrary to my usual M.O. I haven't done much dissection beyond the main controls yet. I was having too much fun with it out of the box.
 
Very cool that there is so much you can customize. Although after some experimentation it seems most of the defaults are well-chosen. Why MIDI velocity for key click is enabled by default is a mystery, though. Does that mimic some real B3 behavior I'm not aware of?
 
Changing vibrato scanner depth during playback caused it to crash with an access violation, but that was not repeatable.


what's your hammond that you said you replaced with VB3 sounds?
2015/09/29 16:36:02
bapu
Sounds like (see watt I dundare?) Beagle's looking for a bigger n better organ.
2015/09/29 16:45:43
Beagle
bapu
Sounds like (see watt I dundare?) Beagle's looking for a bigger n better organ.


lol, no not really looking to replace what I have, I'm just curious because I absolutely love my XK-3C and can't imagine replacing it with anything except maybe a real B3 with a 122.
2015/09/29 16:54:03
Bonzos Ghost
I've been using VB3 lately at a friends place. (so I don't have to pack my Hammond / Ventilator around.)
It's definitely good, but I find when you crank up the overdrive, (which is the type of sound being used for the project) at some point it ends up sounding kinda "small", like it's coming from a small combo amp or something. By comparison, the Hammond/Vent combo doesn't. I'll attribute that to the VB3's leslie sim.
 
The Hammond/Vent sounds better overall to my ears when comparing the two, but VB3 is definitely the best "in the box" Hammond out there, and is 100% usable. Beats the crap out of the old NI B4 II, that's for sure.
2015/09/29 16:59:21
Beagle
Bonzos Ghost
I've been using VB3 lately at a friends place. (so I don't have to pack my Hammond / Ventilator around.)
It's definitely good, but I find when you crank up the overdrive, (which is the type of sound being used for the project) at some point it ends up sounding kinda "small", like it's coming from a small combo amp or something. By comparison, the Hammond/Vent combo doesn't. I'll attribute that to the VB3's leslie sim.
 
The Hammond/Vent sounds better overall to my ears when comparing the two, but VB3 is definitely the best "in the box" Hammond out there, and is 100% usable. Beats the crap out of the old NI B4 II, that's for sure.


that doesn't surprise me.  I stopped using NI's "Classic" organs when I got my XK-3c. 
 
I don't have a vent, tho, just using the leslie and tube amp onboard the XK-3c.
2015/09/29 18:17:19
pentimentosound
I sold my Leslie 45 about 10 years ago(never owned a Hammond. ...yet) and lately, have been thinking about the Mini Vent(and the Vent, too LOL)to go with my Kurz K2500(which I really want to update/upgrade! LOL). I bought the PSP L'Otary but honestly haven't tried it in a track, yet. I am not sure how to "play it" over an organ part and record/ sequence those moves. I suppose it can be automated, but haven't tried that, yet, either.
 
Anyway, this is very interesting! So, thanks for bringing it up and to my attention. I'm definitely checking it out.
Michael
2015/09/30 10:29:05
bitflipper
Beagle, I have an XK-1. Your XK-3 sounds better, especially the Leslie sim.
 
I wish there was a ROM upgrade available for mine so I could bring it up to date, as Suzuki has made some improvements over the years. However, the guy who's been writing VB3 has been working on those algorithms for 20 years so it's not surprising that he might get closer than some Johnny-come-lately contractors at a company better known for motorcycles.
 
I run the XK-1 through a Ventilator and a stereo pair of Roland keyboard amplifiers. The Vent gets the distortion exactly right, at least as far as my memory can ascertain from back in the day when I used a real Leslie. Back then, I often wished I could get a clean sound and still get the desired volume, but as soon as you put microphones on a Leslie you've got something entirely different. The Vent/amp combination lets me get loud and stay clean, or (just as handy) get dirty at low volume.
 
The (almost) ideal live rig would be a module hosting VB3, driven from the Hammond's waterfall keyboard and run through the Ventilator. But I can't afford a Receptor and I wouldn't be happy without physical drawbars. The Crumar Mojo is exactly what I envision: Fatar waterfall keyboard + real drawbars and VB3 running inside. Add the Vent and it's organ heaven. But at $2500 the Crumar's way beyond my means.
 
At least now I can get that sound on recordings, even if it eludes me on stage.
2015/09/30 13:47:15
Beagle
Ah, thanks, Dave!  I have never played an XK1 before so I don't know how different it is from the XK3, but I know the XK3 blows anything away I've played before (save a real B3/C2, etc with a real leslie).
 
 
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