2015/08/11 18:59:19
yorolpal
Or the recent Tom Hardy movie, "Locke"...2 plus hours of just Tom inside his car, talking on his Bluetooth...yet totally engaging and captivating.


PS...can't wait to see him playing BOTH Ronnie and Reggie Kray in the film, Legend.
2015/08/12 02:22:51
jamesg1213
yorolpal
Or the recent Tom Hardy movie, "Locke"...2 plus hours of just Tom inside his car, talking on his Bluetooth...yet totally engaging and captivating.


PS...can't wait to see him playing BOTH Ronnie and Reggie Kray in the film, Legend.



 
'Locke' is a superb film. Hardy's my favourite actor lately, hard to believe it's the same guy in 'Lawless' (another great movie)
2015/08/12 09:23:00
Moshkito
Beagle
Moshkito
bitflipper
...that this is yet another reason, why Americans have a hard time with foreign film!

And the reason this particular American seeks out foreign films.
 
Each country still has its own conventions, but they're all a little different from one another. What I especially look for is multi-cultural cross-pollination. When, say, China takes on an American genre such as the Western. Great stuff often ensues! It'll be just enough like a traditional Western to feel familiar, but will almost certainly take off in an unexpected direction with complex plot twists that are the hallmark of Chinese cinema. Ditto for horror films from Thailand or science fiction from Russia. I'm waiting for a Korean musical; that should be spectacular.


Another example of analog/digital ... the music by Mozart survived and we still listen to it!
 
For those differences, you really want to watch Godard, and his silliness. It's fun after a while because you know after a while he does not care, and he is having his fun with critics and film "ideas". The earlier stuff is best for me (2 or 3 things/weekend/alphaville/a bout de soufflé) ... I have not seen his Mozart film (just arrived) and his King Lear is one of the weirdest things ever, not to mention the casting. I like the French making fun of Americans! It's overboard! The Italians are not good at being funny because they already are! You must see Fellini's Roma and the fashion show at the end! Bombastic!
 
Dang, now I have to load more foreign film reviews ... I only have 500 of them total, and only 1/4 of them are up. I have been redoing them, and have to upload all reviews for the IMDB.


that might take a lot of your time away from posting in the Coffee House!!! 

Probably for the best. You wouldn't miss anything, then! Like Robert Fripp says ... "you're self sufficient, you don't need lessons or ideas."
2015/08/12 09:39:38
Moshkito
jamesg1213
 
Moshkito
1. In film you can see a lot about the setting that Hollywood -- specially!!! -- hides. For example: You would not be able to shoot a film/play indoors. Why? The lighting in a square room and roof, was a bunch of candles, and/or a bowl of oil burning. These lights would be on a pedestal of some sort, so they do not get bumped around. These also offer some warmth, and with no heating, most of these rooms would have tapestries hanging on the walls ...  
 
  Mosh, I've read this paragraph 3 times and still have no idea what you're talking about. What rooms?
 

 
THAT, ought to tell you how much you know/understand about different times, places and history! You simply don't, because not one teacher in any of your school classes, has ever put this into a proper perspective!
 
There was no electricity 2400/2500 years ago. How the heck do you think heat, and light could be carried in any house, room, or at night?
 
Films, hide that ... you go see this and that film, and indoors is just fine, when in Spartacus or Ben Hur or Ten Commandments, no one would be able to do a whole lot inside, because it was too dark! Specially in valleys, where the light of the sun, or the clouds hid even more.
 
How can you not see that? Because you have been spoiled by the movie mentality of most folks that can not see how so many of these stories were changed and made to be "visible" for our times. By the time things got to the Renaissance, the windows in many buildings were usually made to reach higher, to allow in more light.
 
Humans are clever ... they adapt really well ... but you can't imagine life way back when, and then believe a book or two ... it's crazy ... the thought alone, is insane!
 
Think about it!
 
Music couldn't even be "taught" properly, because most of it was not written, and most of it was an aural tradition! 
 
The only distinction I make is sort of like this (simplified!) ... analog is 2000 years old ... digital is electric! The rest is not worth the discussion!
2015/08/12 11:33:30
craigb
Wow, what's next?  I bet he probably tries to make us believe that Raiders of the Lost Ark wasn't historically accurate! 
2015/08/12 12:43:47
drewfx1
Moshkito
jamesg1213
 
Moshkito
1. In film you can see a lot about the setting that Hollywood -- specially!!! -- hides. For example: You would not be able to shoot a film/play indoors. Why? The lighting in a square room and roof, was a bunch of candles, and/or a bowl of oil burning. These lights would be on a pedestal of some sort, so they do not get bumped around. These also offer some warmth, and with no heating, most of these rooms would have tapestries hanging on the walls ...  
 
  Mosh, I've read this paragraph 3 times and still have no idea what you're talking about. What rooms?
 

 
THAT, ought to tell you how much you know/understand about different times, places and history! You simply don't, because not one teacher in any of your school classes, has ever put this into a proper perspective!
 
There was no electricity 2400/2500 years ago. How the heck do you think heat, and light could be carried in any house, room, or at night?
 
Films, hide that ... you go see this and that film, and indoors is just fine, when in Spartacus or Ben Hur or Ten Commandments, no one would be able to do a whole lot inside, because it was too dark! Specially in valleys, where the light of the sun, or the clouds hid even more.
 
How can you not see that? Because you have been spoiled by the movie mentality of most folks that can not see how so many of these stories were changed and made to be "visible" for our times. By the time things got to the Renaissance, the windows in many buildings were usually made to reach higher, to allow in more light.
 
Humans are clever ... they adapt really well ... but you can't imagine life way back when, and then believe a book or two ... it's crazy ... the thought alone, is insane!
 
Think about it!
 
Music couldn't even be "taught" properly, because most of it was not written, and most of it was an aural tradition! 
 
The only distinction I make is sort of like this (simplified!) ... analog is 2000 years old ... digital is electric! The rest is not worth the discussion!




I find it hysterical that in a post where Pedro suggests that others are ignorant about history, he concludes by showing his profound ignorance about the very ancient origins of digital systems:
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_data#Historical_digital_systems
 

2015/08/12 13:55:27
jamesg1213
Moshkito
jamesg1213
 
Moshkito
1. In film you can see a lot about the setting that Hollywood -- specially!!! -- hides. For example: You would not be able to shoot a film/play indoors. Why? The lighting in a square room and roof, was a bunch of candles, and/or a bowl of oil burning. These lights would be on a pedestal of some sort, so they do not get bumped around. These also offer some warmth, and with no heating, most of these rooms would have tapestries hanging on the walls ...  
 
  Mosh, I've read this paragraph 3 times and still have no idea what you're talking about. What rooms?
 

 
THAT, ought to tell you how much you know/understand about different times, places and history...etc.




Hardly.
 
I just couldn't believe that you would have the brass neck to come on this board and try and explain a 'given' like suspension of disbelief in movies like we're children.
 
Do you really think we don't know this stuff? What kind of people do you associate with outside of the internet..anyone at all?
 
Do you think we've all just awoken from lifelong comas here Pedro?
 
Seriously man, get a grip. You beggar belief.
2015/08/12 17:23:09
Moshkito
Hi,
 
Nettles ... this is the biggest problem in teaching history be it literature, arts, or anything else ... we all think everything is the same as today ... and expect all we believe about history to be that way!
 
And that is naïve!
 
And that is uneducated!
 
And I did not create that history!
 
Your attacking me, for something, that is blatantly true, is pathetic ... sad ... and boring!
 
That's what a lot of "Comparative" studies that were done in the 1960's and 1970's, specially in the California systems, of which my own father was a part ... and basically, the first day was ... you gotta remember that not a single moment of a movie or a novel ... is accurate about history ... and then a lot of them went on to help define and break down some of the "traditions" in Greek Theater. Lighting was one. The other was the use of the dark and light. The other the masks to show emotion in poor lighting conditions specially, instead of just "emotion".
 
Oh well ... nothing like some of you guys intentionally hurting a thread because of a racist and malicious attitude. I was merely trying to show how different things are and at the same time, mis-represented, but all you can do is get defensive instead of intelligent and check out the information! You will NEVER EVER see any of those films to have any idea what was being discussed. You'll only stick to the top ten!
 
Now you know why so many Indians were wiped out in America for 300 years ... who cares? People here do not have an appreciation for history and some of its brouhahas, of which one of the most famous books, while very poetic, is the worst of them all!
 
There is no difference. Analog and Digital is just another word to prevent you from discussing the real detail or theme of the work at hand. it doesn't matter what it is, if it stands up strongly and well done. It's about the work itself, and the person/persons behind it.
2015/08/12 18:15:43
drewfx1
Moshkito
 all you can do is get defensive instead of intelligent and check out the information!



This is an interesting statement to reflect upon, as it contrasts defensiveness with intelligence. Perhaps when one is being defensive, then one is not using one's intelligence to its greatest capacity?
2015/08/12 19:03:46
craigb

© 2026 APG vNext Commercial Version 5.1

Use My Existing Forum Account

Use My Social Media Account