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2017/08/26 03:29:48
jkoseattle

http://imgur.com/a/PZSyh
Running LatencyMon on a plain rebooted system with nothing running, I got this after running for about 2 seconds.
 
2017/08/26 03:42:44
taccess
jkoseattle

http://imgur.com/a/PZSyh
Running LatencyMon on a plain rebooted system with nothing running, I got this after running for about 2 seconds.
 


Please make sure in your BIOS all your memory enhancement options are disabled and intel boost and speed step is disabled .
 
Go to Control panel and disable your LAN + WIFI then Run the test again until it goes into the RED: post results again once done.
 
You have a PC problem that you need to solve: Highest reported should not exceed 1000us Maximum but should stay below 800us once the problem is solved.
2017/08/26 03:52:07
jkoseattle
taccess
Can u Please elaborate on exactly what you did to split your project in two, so we can understand the workaround properly.

 
I copied the project, then simply deleted everything after the split point in one, and everything before the split point in another. For the project with only the second half content in it, I also deleted all the tracks I no longer needed, which included all the EW Play tracks and instruments, since the second half was straightforward Midi outputting to my physical piano.
2017/08/26 04:52:53
jkoseattle
taccess
 
Please make sure in your BIOS all your memory enhancement options are disabled and intel boost and speed step is disabled .
 
Go to Control panel and disable your LAN + WIFI then Run the test again until it goes into the RED: post results again once done.
 
You have a PC problem that you need to solve: Highest reported should not exceed 1000us Maximum but should stay below 800us once the problem is solved.



I disabled the entire LAN connection and disabled SpeedStep. As for other "memory enhancement options", I don't know what that might be, so any more specific assistance might be required. Anyway, LatencyMon showed no different results after having done that.
 
Also, if I disable the Local Area connection then I have no internet, so I have to re-enable it to be able to get online. Is that what you meant? There is no Wifi on this computer.
2017/08/26 05:01:37
taccess
jkoseattle
taccess
 
Please make sure in your BIOS all your memory enhancement options are disabled and intel boost and speed step is disabled .
 
Go to Control panel and disable your LAN + WIFI then Run the test again until it goes into the RED: post results again once done.
 
You have a PC problem that you need to solve: Highest reported should not exceed 1000us Maximum but should stay below 800us once the problem is solved.



I disabled the entire LAN connection and disabled SpeedStep. As for other "memory enhancement options", I don't know what that might be, so any more specific assistance might be required. Anyway, LatencyMon showed no different results after having done that.
 
Also, if I disable the Local Area connection then I have no internet, so I have to re-enable it to be able to get online. Is that what you meant? There is no Wifi on this computer.


Network
Yes disable your internet cards in control panel then run the LatencyMon test again, You can enable the network card after the test .
The NDIS you see in your last latencyMon video results is a network driver so you need to disable it and run the test again to see if there are any other issues causing latency mon to spike.

Bios
You should have a manual for your motherboard and it will explain all available settings, generally any CPU or Memory bios settings that enhance the PC are big problems for real time audio processing.

USB
Also i sent you a PM on how to make sure your USB devices are on seperate IRQ's, can you please do that also.
2017/08/26 05:10:55
taccess
Just Make sure you disable network card in device manager before you run LatencyMon again.

Turning off the internet at the task bar is not enough !
2017/08/26 05:34:32
jkoseattle
Ok, disabling the network makes so that my maximum DPC latency is < 200 after a full minute or two. Re-enabling it makes it shoot back it to ~6000 again. So that tells me that I can't run the internet on this computer if I also want to process audio? Should I be enabling and disabling this connection all the time depending on if I'm working on a Sonar project? I mean, if that's what I have to do I'll do it, but what a hassle. Tell me there's a better way.
 
I am having to learn about cow anatomy so that I can operate on the cow so that I can repair its lactation system so that it will supply me with enough milk that I can make a souffle. I don't want to know anything about cow anatomy. I just want to make a f--king souffle.
2017/08/26 06:00:25
taccess
jkoseattle
Ok, disabling the network makes so that my maximum DPC latency is < 200 after a full minute or two. Re-enabling it makes it shoot back it to ~6000 again. So that tells me that I can't run the internet on this computer if I also want to process audio? Should I be enabling and disabling this connection all the time depending on if I'm working on a Sonar project? I mean, if that's what I have to do I'll do it, but what a hassle. Tell me there's a better way.
 
I am having to learn about cow anatomy so that I can operate on the cow so that I can repair its lactation system so that it will supply me with enough milk that I can make a souffle. I don't want to know anything about cow anatomy. I just want to make a f--king souffle.


Some people don't and some have to disable network cards, i always disable mine when platinum is running!
 
You need to run the LatencyMon test for 1 hour without any other programs, switch it on and go do something else, just check every now and again to see if its gone into the RED.
The reason i say an hour is because 1 hour is as good as all day ! 2 minutes is not !
 
If LatencyMon runs for 1 hour in the GREEN, then fire up the Platinum project put it on loop playback where a section that uses most midi tracks and run LatencyMon again for another hour.
 
After you get to this point with latencyMon still in the green then your PC is good to go.
 
Remember as soon as it goes into the red its time to stop LatecnyMon find out WHY, in order to find out why you need to do something eg Disable something or update something or Optimize something and run the test again and keep repeating again until it does run in the green. You need to be dedicated to wanting LatencyMon in the green always and you will then achieve it.
Keep notes of things you disable or optimze so you can reference to it once you solve this.
 
My LatencyMon runs for 8 hours with platinum running and the highest is 600us on the worst day and 200us on the best.
LatencyMon is the first place towards solving your problems because then you can say its not the PC.
 
Please just make sure you check your USB devices are on seperate IRQ's.
 
Good Luck !
 
2017/08/26 14:42:51
jkoseattle
So I did just that, let my project play overnight with the network card disabled, and LatencyMon stayed in the green all night, though the highest "hard pagefault" scooted way up pretty quickly and was at 28k by morning. Also, SACM was 32 Mb after all night which was encouraging. Do I need to worry about hard pagefaults, or am I only concerned with DPC?
 
Moments after I re-enabled the network so I could send this, DPC went up to 6000.
2017/08/26 14:47:29
Zargg
jkoseattle
So I did just that, let my project play overnight with the network card disabled, and LatencyMon stayed in the green all night, though the highest "hard pagefault" scooted way up pretty quickly and was at 28k by morning. Also, SACM was 32 Mb after all night which was encouraging. Do I need to worry about hard pagefaults, or am I only concerned with DPC?
 
Moments after I re-enabled the network so I could send this, DPC went up to 6000.


The issue has been located then 
It might seem like a hassle to disconnect when using SONAR, but will keep SONAR running (hopefully) problem free if you do so 
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