Westside Steve Simmons
universal audio had one called Nigel but they decided to take it away.

Actually I believe they were sued by Christopher Guest because he felt it infringed on Spinal Tap and therefore his intellectual property.
 
Had I been in his position, I would have been flattered...and then approached UA about offering an "11% off Spinal Tap DVD" coupon to people who owned Nigel.

chuckebaby
Guitar Sims have come a long way but if you want the best possible sound, use a real amp with an SM57 (or better).

Proof that it's all relative.
I did the real amp thing from 1970 thru the late 90's in pro studios and at home
and never got as good a sound as I'm getting now with Guitar Rig 5.
 

I use both real amps and surreal amps 

Steve_Karl

chuckebaby
Guitar Sims have come a long way but if you want the best possible sound, use a real amp with an SM57 (or better).

Proof that it's all relative.
I did the real amp thing from 1970 thru the late 90's in pro studios and at home
and never got as good a sound as I'm getting now with Guitar Rig 5.
 

Then im guessing either A- your amps, speakers are not high quality or B- Your mic'ing technique is flawed.
Im all for Amp Sims and I believe they have come a long way but even Bias FX compared to guitar rig 5 is 1000 miles apart. but nothing and I mean nothing will reproduce like a real guitar amp.

If they can ever get the surreal amps to make that dusty tube smell, then I will surrender.

Anderton

Westside Steve Simmons
universal audio had one called Nigel but they decided to take it away.

Actually I believe they were sued by Christopher Guest because he felt it infringed on Spinal Tap and therefore his intellectual property.
 
Had I been in his position, I would have been flattered...and then approached UA about offering an "11% off Spinal Tap DVD" coupon to people who owned Nigel.

Well that bites. One wouldn't think that Nigel was such a specific name as it could be a trademark.
I guess I better check with my attorneys before I open up my chain of Anderton Burger restaurants.

WSS

chuckebaby
Then im guessing either A- your amps, speakers are not high quality or B- Your mic'ing technique is flawed.
Im all for Amp Sims and I believe they have come a long way but even Bias FX compared to guitar rig 5 is 1000 miles apart. but nothing and I mean nothing will reproduce like a real guitar amp.

I think it's what we're each individually looking for and what each of us thinks is "good"
and feels comfortable with, more than anything else.
That is where the relativity exists.
It's a matter of what we prefer.

"nothing will reproduce like a real guitar amp" ... well ... if you feel that way then that's great ... for you.
I just don't miss it.
 
My gear was fine, as was the gear that was in the pro studios, and the engineers in those studios.

I'm not saying I didn't like the amped sound when I was using it.
It's just than now,
I'm getting much more touch sensitivity and have much greater control over tone.
Granted, a lot of that is the DAW and doing it in the box as opposed to on tape, but I can safely say
I'll never go back to beating on logs with an amp and a mic. for recording.

You might hate my guitar sound ... and that's ok with me.
Everyone is allowed to have personal taste. At least I think so.
But of course, I don't expect anyone else to feel the way I do.

What matters to me I how I feel about it, when I'm playing ...
... because I'm playing off of the sound and it's making it happen for me better than it ever has in the past.

Steve_Karl

chuckebaby
Then im guessing either A- your amps, speakers are not high quality or B- Your mic'ing technique is flawed.
Im all for Amp Sims and I believe they have come a long way but even Bias FX compared to guitar rig 5 is 1000 miles apart. but nothing and I mean nothing will reproduce like a real guitar amp.

I think it's what we're each individually looking for and what each of us thinks is "good"
and feels comfortable with, more than anything else.
That is where the relativity exists.
It's a matter of what we prefer.

"nothing will reproduce like a real guitar amp" ... well ... if you feel that way then that's great ... for you.
I just don't miss it.
 
My gear was fine, as was the gear that was in the pro studios, and the engineers in those studios.

I'm not saying I didn't like the amped sound when I was using it.
It's just than now,
I'm getting much more touch sensitivity and have much greater control over tone.
Granted, a lot of that is the DAW and doing it in the box as opposed to on tape, but I can safely say
I'll never go back to beating on logs with an amp and a mic. for recording.

You might hate my guitar sound ... and that's ok with me.
Everyone is allowed to have personal taste. At least I think so.
But of course, I don't expect anyone else to feel the way I do.

What matters to me I how I feel about it, when I'm playing ...
... because I'm playing off of the sound and it's making it happen for me better than it ever has in the past.

Your right Steve.
I have to do a better job at respecting other peoples choices. Something im still struggling with.
What might be good for me, is not always what's best for someone else. Suggesting your technique might be flawed was also pretty ignorant of me.
 
I used guitar rig for many years and had good results with it.
However, when I go back to those recordings now, I hear sounds that im not happy with.
 
But you know what, a good engineer can make almost any Amp Sim sound good.
So ironically, maybe it was my technique that was flawed
 

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Can a moderator please restore my disappearing post.
Thank you.