ORIGINAL: MatsonMusicBox

ORIGINAL: Jonbouy

ORIGINAL: MatsonMusicBox

SONAR seems to be weak generally in the "multiple apply" category ... I'd like to be able to rapidly:

1) Assign the same effects sends to a bunch of tracks at once
2) Assign the same bus assignment (output) to a bunch of tracks at once
3) Assign the same input to multiple tracks at once
4) as noted - same effects to multiple tracks at once - you can ctrl-drag which makes it pretty quick at least
5) same track icon to multiple at once

Maybe there are ways to do these things and I just don't know about them? If so - Please let me know!

1/ Clone or template track.
2/ Clone or template track
3/ Clone or template track
4/ Clone or template track
5/ Clone or template track

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clue: I only typed that once then just changed the numbers individually...

Yep - works great IF you don't already have the tracks set up with other plug-in, settings, sends, etc. I only typed once also!

My, my we are a bit wedged up this morning aren't we? I must have upset you I can tell... Not my intention though I just can't seem to avoid incurring someones wrath these days. I'm gonna have to invest in a few terms at charm school I can tell.

If I've got tracks already set-up with stuff I normally find I don't need to apply 'bulk' settings at that point. I guess I plan ahead a bit

FWIW although I've nearly lost the will to live now, ALL the tracks input and output's and icons (2,3 and 5)can be altered though in bulk after the event from the Tracks Properties menu in track view.

Just select the tracks you want to change the setting of then Track/Properties choose what needs changing.

HTH, seriously.

ORIGINAL: Jonbouy

ALL the tracks input and output's and can be altered though in bulk after the event from the Tracks Properties menu.

Just select the tracks you want to change the setting of then Track/Properties choose what needs changing.

HTH, seriously.

I'll look at that - could be helpful - might be the ticket.

Here's a scenario .... assign all my vocals to vocal sub buss ... clone or temp[late as you indicated ... song I'm working on has about a dozen people I recruited doing a "chant" (think "I just want to celebrate" or "we will rock you" thing) in addition to the regular vocals. I decide that I'd like to put all these to another sub buss called "chant" - would be handy to somehow select all 12 of them and assign to the new buss at once. Sounds like track properties might do that.

Also - now I decide they would all sound good with their own special reverb on them, so I set up an effects buss, would be nice to be able to add the send to all 12 channels at once.

ORIGINAL: MatsonMusicBox

ORIGINAL: Jonbouy

ALL the tracks input and output's and can be altered though in bulk after the event from the Tracks Properties menu.

Just select the tracks you want to change the setting of then Track/Properties choose what needs changing.

HTH, seriously.

I'll look at that - could be helpful - might be the ticket.

Here's a scenario .... assign all my vocals to vocal sub buss ... clone or temp[late as you indicated ... song I'm working on has about a dozen people I recruited doing a "chant" (think "I just want to celebrate" or "we will rock you" thing) in addition to the regular vocals. I decide that I'd like to put all these to another sub buss called "chant" - would be handy to somehow select all 12 of them and assign to the new buss at once. Sounds like track properties might do that.

Also - now I decide they would all sound good with their own special reverb on them, so I set up an effects buss, would be nice to be able to add the send to all 12 channels at once.

Yes to the first paragraph you've got it, you won't be able to put in the reverb sends in bulk but here you are doing that planning ahead thing so you can cater for the possibilty of including a couple of blank sends on the track before you clone them when you are first setting up the project in order that you can put that special reverb on a bus and by means of a quick group in console view change all the sends settings for your chant choir at once when the need arises.

It doesn't hurt to have a couple of disabled sends on a track the 'may' get used later as you can't add them in bulk after the event AFAIK. You'll be able to adjust them all in bulk though if they are on you tracks from the outset via a group or quick group.

Most old (like me) desks have track sends whether they got used or not so I guess here all that's happening is that you are given the option of deciding how many sends you are likely to want or usually use at setup time, to keep things simple though make sure they are disabled before cloning.

or, a code rev to *optionally* assign outputs/busses/sends to a Track Folder

ORIGINAL: John

In Sonar each audio track has EQ built in. The idea here is to not duplicate when you don't have to. PT HD has DSP hardware Sonar is native. Its really bad practice to add FX of the same type independently to each track. It takes up unnecessary CPU. A bus is the best way to handle this sort of thing in Sonar. Now clearly there will be times when you will need to have the same FX on two different tracks because they will be set up differently. In that case one will have to accept the CPU hit on that but to do so routinely is not a good idea when you don't have to.

You can copy and paste FX as many times as you want. Even with the same settings if you like in Sonar.

Post edited for clarity I see...

Of course to do anything that isn't needed is always bad practice...unless of course it's for the sheer folly and fun of it.

ORIGINAL: davidchristopher

In PT, you can control-click-insert a plug in or send on all tracks. Is there an equivalent shortcut in Sonar 8

IE: I have 16 audio tracks, and I want to insert a compressor on each track and assign a send on each track to the reverb bus... Aside from setting up the first plugin and control-dragging it to the next track, is there any way to control-click-insert plugin so it applies all tracks?

This would be great! Get to it Cake!

Dude

ORIGINAL: John

In Sonar each audio track has EQ built in. The idea here is to not duplicate when you don't have to. PT HD has DSP hardware Sonar is native. Its really bad practice to add FX of the same type independently to each track. It takes up unnecessary CPU. A bus is the best way to handle this sort of thing in Sonar. Now clearly there will be times when you will need to have the same FX on two different tracks because they will be set up differently. In that case one will have to accept the CPU hit on that but to do so routinely is not a good idea when you don't have to.

You can copy and paste FX as many times as you want. Even with the same settings if you like in Sonar.

Humm, I think you're totaly missing the point. In my world, each track (say drums for example) will have a compressor, all with different settings, and it's a pain to add them manually or copy to each. Would be great to be able to add the plug to all tracks (or even better, all tracks in a folder).

Your situation might be different ... one compression setting for all your tracks!

In regards to EQ, wich is used on all my tracks (hopefully on some of yours as well), I don't like the Cake EQ, so I end up inserting EQ on every track.

This in my mind would be a great feature, no need to use it if it doesn't fit your workflow/style.

Dude

If you want to insert multiple sends...

Select all the relevant tracks
Right click in the first track
Insert send

It gets added to all tracks

ORIGINAL: kp

If you want to insert multiple sends...

Select all the relevant tracks
Right click in the first track
Insert send

It gets added to all tracks

Thanks KP

So that's pretty much all bases covered then...who knew?

I'd never even tried that as I always have a spare send or two.

ORIGINAL: davidchristopher

In PT, you can control-click-insert a plug in or send on all tracks. Is there an equivalent shortcut in Sonar 8

IE: I have 16 audio tracks, and I want to insert a compressor on each track and assign a send on each track to the reverb bus... Aside from setting up the first plugin and control-dragging it to the next track, is there any way to control-click-insert plugin so it applies all tracks?

If this is your standard preference I'd say create a template beforehand and use that when you start a new project. I will say that using the same compressor plugin on every track is something not many folks would do. Not that that should stop you I guess. But the point being, if Cake adds new features every time for a limited number of users it just makes the program into bloatware over time. Templates are an elegant way to customize your projects without adding bloat to the underlying code.

And really how much time does it take to add 16 plugins... you got a train to catch?