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  • OT: Should I quit my job to focus on music? (p.14)
2007/07/31 16:11:39
marcos69
Back to the OP. Consider this. Just because you are young now and don't want to miss your opportunity doesn't mean that NOW is the time of your opportunity. I never pursued a career in music when I was younger because I didn't have a product then. I was too immature musically and didn't really get into my creative stride until my 40's. I'm 47 now and writing and playing the best I ever have. I could not have created the music I have lately when I was in my 20's. With age comes wisdom and polish.
2007/07/31 16:14:47
Joe Bravo
But that's kind of demonstrably not true. Metal does sale, and it's not on the radio. And I'm sure you understand that things get played on the radio, not because they sell well, but because they bring a demographic to that station that will spend money and therefore are attractive to advertisers.

I was taking all that into account.

BTW, I'll say it again, I couldn't care less if someone wants to play metal or marching band music. I care about the topic that began the thread. Namely, is it wise to persue music fulll-time? I stand by what I originally posted. You may get lucky with a metal band or alternative rock, (which I would never say has anything to do with being with a small record company or releasing albums independantly; that's Independant Music, not alternative rock), but you probably won't, and if you want longevity in the business it would be wise to cover all your bases. know everything there is to know about music, scales, harmony, chords, and be a good sight reader. Better yet, get a degree in music so you can at least teach at a high school level as a backup plan. Do all that and you're gonna get work. I only had a year of college and was self taught on guitar, but because I was gigging all over town playing jazz and jazz-rock fusion back in the early 80's, I still got to do some session work. This town ain't no music mecca and sessions here mean playing on jingles more than anything, but as long as you can read a chord chart and improvise the leads, you can get away with it sometimes. Depends on who hires you. I somehow got involved with some gospel rock/pop records back then too. I really don't know how it happened. I think I just played on a demo for some young guy in South County once, and he must have given my name to people because I did a lot of sessions in small studios that year. I even did a lot of small parts for free on independant projects for people because I didn't need the money really. It was easy work; I just had to come in and blow a lead here and there, and that was it. I had completely forgotten about that stuff (as has the rest of the world), but there was a guy by the name of Claud Crain(sp?) who used to be a gospel record collector/dealer, and he came out with a book that contained up to that point (about twnety years ago) every single gospel recording ever made, even home custom cassettes and stuff. I mean EVERYTHING. I got a call from a record buyer I used to know by the name of John Bradshaw who had just gotten the book, and he said my name was all over the place in it. I had no idea. Apparently a lot of those sessions (and many of them were just little demo sessions) I had played on ended up on records eventually and that sort of thing.

Got's to go. Working on my own book (of a different nature).
2007/07/31 16:17:14
Joe Bravo
ORIGINAL: marcos69

Back to the OP. Consider this. Just because you are young now and don't want to miss your opportunity doesn't mean that NOW is the time of your opportunity. I never pursued a career in music when I was younger because I didn't have a product then. I was too immature musically and didn't really get into my creative stride until my 40's. I'm 47 now and writing and playing the best I ever have. I could not have created the music I have lately when I was in my 20's. With age comes wisdom and polish.


I can say almost the exact same for myself (and I'm 48). I was a better improviser and had better technique when I was much younger, mostly because I don't practice now, but I wasn't nearly as musical as I am now. I listen to some of the stuff I recorded twenty years ago and just cringe.
2007/07/31 16:20:14
marcos69

ORIGINAL: yep


ORIGINAL: Gamergirl
...Do you have the "Holy Diver Live," set? I have the CD and the video. It's effin awesome!

I'm writing a song that's a tribute to RJD right now... I'll tell you what inspired me, was the "Tenacious D" movie. Dude, you should watch that... if that doesn't inspire you to finish a song, I don't know what will...


The most perfect image in the history of Rock music is the centerpiece from the "Beast of Dio" compilation where he's onstage in front of a big Demon statue holding a lightsaber up in the air.

Not only is Dio totally awesome, but he's also totally earnest about what he does and never blows the joke.


I saw him down here about 2 years ago. All the theatrics aside, there isn't a more humble and appreciative artist. He is honestly gracious to his fans.
2007/07/31 16:27:02
droddey
I can say almost the exact same for myself (and I'm 48). I was a better improviser and had better technique when I was much younger, mostly because I don't practice now, but I wasn't nearly as musical as I am now. I listen to some of the stuff I recorded twenty years ago and just cringe.


I agree. In some ways, it was because I thought less back then, and just felt more and was able to just play on gut instinct. Now I think too much, and I'm also not as physically proficient though I'm getting that back slowly.
2007/07/31 16:36:33
APC3

ORIGINAL: Joe Bravo
I can say almost the exact same for myself (and I'm 48). I was a better improviser and had better technique when I was much younger, mostly because I don't practice now, but I wasn't nearly as musical as I am now. I listen to some of the stuff I recorded twenty years ago and just cringe.


This is soo true.
2007/07/31 16:37:56
AsherLongley
Pardon me if this has already been revealed, but:


HAS XFUSION ACTUALLY POSTED SOME OF HIS MUSIC YET???

I appologize if this has already been addressed, however, we're at 5 pages to this thread now and, I just don't want to go looking any more.
2007/07/31 17:11:03
OldGeezer
No pressure there! Posting an example means possibly being told "Don't quit your day job" and knowing it's a totally serious suggestion. Could you tell him if that's what you thought? I have no problem telling someone his/her song bites, but I don't think I have it in me to tell someone that he or she bites. And what if I tell him "Yeah! You rock!", and he does, but his carreer never even gets off the ground. I'm not sure how comfortable the situation would be for anyone if he posts examples in this thread. And I'm not sure how accurate the results would be either. It could be he gets 5 posts saying "go for it" when, for the reason mentioned above, there could be 50 who think he's not good enough but don't post, leaving him falsely thinking it's a unanimous: "Quit your job!"

Xfusion, I think the only deciding factor is wether or not your music rules or sucks to the general population. If I were you, I wouldn't post anything in this thread...I'd upload a couple of good tunes onto several popular sites, point to them in as many relevant forums I could, and monitor comments and ratings. I doubt you'll sell much music if you can't give it away. If you notice you're suddenly in the top 20 on one of those sites, then you might see that as a good indicator. If you get few downloads and poor or no ratings, then you might wanna rethink the whole idea.
2007/07/31 19:03:40
AsherLongley

ORIGINAL: OldGeezer

No pressure there! Posting an example means possibly being told "Don't quit your day job" and knowing it's a totally serious suggestion. Could you tell him if that's what you thought? I have no problem telling someone his/her song bites, but I don't think I have it in me to tell someone that he or she bites. And what if I tell him "Yeah! You rock!", and he does, but his carreer never even gets off the ground. I'm not sure how comfortable the situation would be for anyone if he posts examples in this thread. And I'm not sure how accurate the results would be either. It could be he gets 5 posts saying "go for it" when, for the reason mentioned above, there could be 50 who think he's not good enough but don't post, leaving him falsely thinking it's a unanimous: "Quit your job!"

Xfusion, I think the only deciding factor is wether or not your music rules or sucks to the general population. If I were you, I wouldn't post anything in this thread...I'd upload a couple of good tunes onto several popular sites, point to them in as many relevant forums I could, and monitor comments and ratings. I doubt you'll sell much music if you can't give it away. If you notice you're suddenly in the top 20 on one of those sites, then you might see that as a good indicator. If you get few downloads and poor or no ratings, then you might wanna rethink the whole idea.



Okay. I'd still like to hear his stuff.
2007/07/31 19:22:29
fep
Yeah, I'd like to hear his stuff too.

It's silly that anyone encouraged him to drop his job and pursue a career in music before actually hearing his music. It's actually silly that he asked without giving us any idea how talented and accomplished he is.
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