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2015/07/05 09:52:35
clintmartin
Universal heath care...heal thy self or die broke.
2015/07/05 10:36:16
Moshkito
Hi,
 
At 64, I have good days and bad days. I'm not sure that any of these gagagoogoo things help any, but yesterday I had a day off, and spent most of it in bed ... and had to forego a date because of it. Didn't help that the heat here in Portland/Vancouver was 95 or something ...  and I ended up going back to bed at 8PM (knowing the noise would keep me up!) to get up at 6AM for work!
 
I supposed a good erection might make a difference?
2015/07/06 06:46:39
Guitarhacker
Eat more natural foods and eat less food overall.
 
Switch to drinking water instead of chemical cocktails.
 
Exercise and become active.
 
Growing old isn't for sissies.  I'll be 61 soon.  I ride a bike every day and walk at least a mile a day.
 
I don't have a gym membership...I have a German Shepard.
 

2015/07/06 10:35:12
sharke
The internet is full of sites which make wild claims about some supplement or other being a miracle cure for something, and has been since at least the late 90's when I started surfing. They usually include a long list of ailments which the miracle cure is believed to help. These lists of ailments are designed to include something for everyone, so that anybody reading through it is bound to identify to some degree and thus build up their hope that this miracle substance will help them. Tiredness? Ooo I have that! Dry flaky skin? Check! Restless legs? That's me alright! And so on....
 
So from where do they compile this list of ailments? Credible scientific studies? No. In almost every case you'll find that it's based on a mixture of anecdotal evidence (someone on a natural cure forum once said that they thought it might have helped with their eczema) and, well, other websites that make the same claim without any evidence to back it up. 
 
And I know you're not supposed to judge a book by its cover, but over the years I've come to notice that these miracle cure websites have a certain look about them, i.e. hastily thrown together with basic HTML and looking like they've never been updated since 1998. That's just a casual observation - take it or leave it. 
 
There are so many of these sites. Miracle bowel cleaning formulas, the ancient power of goji juice (Himalayan people who eat goji berries have been found to live to 150 years old!), ear candling, high dose iodine therapy, bentonite clay...the list is endless. 
 
My gut feeling is that whomever put that website together has done so by collating a bunch of other information that he or she has read on other unsubstantiated websites. People get obsessed with these miracle cures and they compile huge amounts of facts and figures from the internet, which they regurgitate on forum discussions and on their own websites. Any page that has chemical formulas and scientific units in it automatically communicates an air of authority to people who are desperate for a cure for the ailments listed. 
 
My advice to anyone who is taken in by pages like this is to stop and think clearly for a minute. Am I becoming emotionally invested in the idea that this information is legit, and thus censoring my natural skepticism? Try this: whatever cure you're reading about, Google the name of that cure followed by the word "scam." So in this case, Google "Food grade hydrogen peroxide scam" and see what comes up. You're likely to find a ton of pages which debunk what you've just read, and with even more scientific authority than you thought the cure page had. 
 
So in this case, I found these pages:
 
http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support-forums/general-support/190510-hydrogen-peroxide-a-warning-and-a-dangerous-scam
http://www.hellawella.com/debunking-dangerous-detox-myth-hydrogen-peroxide
 
Now granted, you're not expected to put blind faith in the legitimacy and accuracy of the debunkings, but they should at least provide a helpful counterbalance to offset whatever misguided excitement you felt when reading the cure page. In this case, I think it's pretty clear that it's a scam. 
2015/07/06 11:26:05
michaelhanson
Guitarhacker
Eat more natural foods and eat less food overall.
 
Switch to drinking water instead of chemical cocktails.
 
Exercise and become active.
 
Growing old isn't for sissies.  I'll be 61 soon.  I ride a bike every day and walk at least a mile a day.
 
I don't have a gym membership...I have a German Shepard.
 


 
I am in complete agreement with Herb.  My wife works with over a dozen Retirement Communities in Dallas for her business.  She noticed a long time ago that the people who seemed to be the healthiest and live the longest, were also the most active through out their lives and into their senior years.
 
I do belong to a health club and I try to get up there about 4 times a week.  Like Herb, this guy makes sure that I get at least a mile in, most every day.
 

2015/07/06 12:45:53
clintmartin
sharke
The internet is full of sites which make wild claims about some supplement or other being a miracle cure for something, and has been since at least the late 90's when I started surfing. They usually include a long list of ailments which the miracle cure is believed to help. These lists of ailments are designed to include something for everyone, so that anybody reading through it is bound to identify to some degree and thus build up their hope that this miracle substance will help them. Tiredness? Ooo I have that! Dry flaky skin? Check! Restless legs? That's me alright! And so on....
 
So from where do they compile this list of ailments? Credible scientific studies? No. In almost every case you'll find that it's based on a mixture of anecdotal evidence (someone on a natural cure forum once said that they thought it might have helped with their eczema) and, well, other websites that make the same claim without any evidence to back it up. 
 
And I know you're not supposed to judge a book by its cover, but over the years I've come to notice that these miracle cure websites have a certain look about them, i.e. hastily thrown together with basic HTML and looking like they've never been updated since 1998. That's just a casual observation - take it or leave it. 
 
There are so many of these sites. Miracle bowel cleaning formulas, the ancient power of goji juice (Himalayan people who eat goji berries have been found to live to 150 years old!), ear candling, high dose iodine therapy, bentonite clay...the list is endless. 
 
My gut feeling is that whomever put that website together has done so by collating a bunch of other information that he or she has read on other unsubstantiated websites. People get obsessed with these miracle cures and they compile huge amounts of facts and figures from the internet, which they regurgitate on forum discussions and on their own websites. Any page that has chemical formulas and scientific units in it automatically communicates an air of authority to people who are desperate for a cure for the ailments listed. 
 
My advice to anyone who is taken in by pages like this is to stop and think clearly for a minute. Am I becoming emotionally invested in the idea that this information is legit, and thus censoring my natural skepticism? Try this: whatever cure you're reading about, Google the name of that cure followed by the word "scam." So in this case, Google "Food grade hydrogen peroxide scam" and see what comes up. You're likely to find a ton of pages which debunk what you've just read, and with even more scientific authority than you thought the cure page had. 
 
So in this case, I found these pages:
 
http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support-forums/general-support/190510-hydrogen-peroxide-a-warning-and-a-dangerous-scam
http://www.hellawella.com/debunking-dangerous-detox-myth-hydrogen-peroxide
 
Now granted, you're not expected to put blind faith in the legitimacy and accuracy of the debunkings, but they should at least provide a helpful counterbalance to offset whatever misguided excitement you felt when reading the cure page. In this case, I think it's pretty clear that it's a scam. 


Good stuff! I have forwarded this and links to some friends who are doing this. I haven't ever tried it, but I was curious.
2015/07/06 12:58:57
Mesh
If a long healthy life is what you're after, the answer is right HERE!!
 
Fits perfectly with the theme in here no?
2015/07/06 13:02:02
BobF
I don't think it's a coincidence that the bacon grease in the jar next to the stove never spoils
2015/07/06 13:11:49
UbiquitousBubba
I spoiled once while sitting next to the stove. Sadly, for a few minutes there, I was the most edible thing in the kitchen. 
 
After that, the story of Hansel and Gretel lost its appeal. 
2015/07/11 21:47:45
outland144k
I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that perhaps blueberries may be a tastier way to get one's fill of antioxidants than "food-grade" hydrogen peroxide.
 
Just a thought....
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