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2015/07/07 14:00:04
Mooch4056
yorolpal
As both a keyboardist and guitarist I'd have to say I'm with Karyn on this one.  From my own usage and what I've heard and seen from others, Sonar is a pretty well rounded STUDIO which can be used to produce any kind of music. Even if your main instrument is a swinette.




It has been said that if one doesn't stop playing with his swinette they will go blind. 
 
Maybe that's why I wear glasses. Good thing I stopped 
2015/07/07 14:02:57
Mesh
Stopped wearing glasses?
2015/07/07 15:07:26
bitman
Ready!.......FIGHT!
 

2015/07/08 13:31:56
Moshkito
charlyg
It was mentioned in another thread how CW went from midi-centric  to a Guitar centered DAW.
 
From my point of view(fwiw), it is a keyboard(synth) based DAW. Since a keyboard based synth can mimic any instrument, many new features come from that world view IMO. Us bassists are just along for the ride!
 
Discuss, and keep it friendly, we're not discussing whirrled peas.



I don't think there are that many people that have any idea of what midi does or can do, and how to work with it. And when you ask them, it's even worse!
 
Not surprised to see it become more guitar centered, if that is the case. The big problem is that it is killing keyboards, and their use. Nowadays, even Beacocks over here only has 3 keyboards and the rest are pianos. But they have 55 basses and 100 guitars!
 
Maybe one day there will be a DAW that will be "music-centric" instead of just helpful for one of them!  It's one of the weirdest things ... I can't even just plug in the bass and record something ... but I can invent it with software!  But in the end, even a guitar is easier on the DAW ... learning the notes and chords is for the birds and the purists now! Did you see that pianist that did his encore on an iPad?  THAT is a future, that you and I are starting to see! It probably won't matter what instrument it would feature
2015/07/08 13:37:24
Beagle
Moshkito
charlyg
It was mentioned in another thread how CW went from midi-centric  to a Guitar centered DAW.
 
From my point of view(fwiw), it is a keyboard(synth) based DAW. Since a keyboard based synth can mimic any instrument, many new features come from that world view IMO. Us bassists are just along for the ride!
 
Discuss, and keep it friendly, we're not discussing whirrled peas.



I don't think there are that many people that have any idea of what midi does or can do, and how to work with it. And when you ask them, it's even worse!
 
Not surprised to see it become more guitar centered, if that is the case.
 
Maybe one day there will be a DAW that will be "music-centric" instead of just helpful for one of them!  It's one of the weirdest things ... I can't even just plug in the bass and record something ... but I can invent it with software! That should answer  question!


I disagree.  there are a LOT of people on these forums who know a LOT about MIDI.  I know a decent amount and we have several people on the forums who are giants compared to me in MIDI knowledge.  spend some time up top and you'll find them pretty easily.
2015/07/08 13:50:02
Moshkito
Hi,
 
Not my experience, with 2 classes on Abelton and one on DAW's in general at Portland Music!
 
The only thing they can teach you is how to DJ ... the rest of the DAW is totally worthless as far as those folks are concerned, and over here, it's even more difficult although there are 2 folks that I will hope to get some assist here in the near future.
2015/07/08 15:53:29
Beagle
Moshkito
Hi,
 
Not my experience, with 2 classes on Abelton and one on DAW's in general at Portland Music!
 
The only thing they can teach you is how to DJ ... the rest of the DAW is totally worthless as far as those folks are concerned, and over here, it's even more difficult although there are 2 folks that I will hope to get some assist here in the near future.



and you're basing the statement that "many people" don't understand MIDI on that demographic? 
 
 
sorry - that's a completely misguided conclusion.
2015/07/08 16:18:15
bapu
If I only know two people and they do not know about how to brew beer, then conclude I know many people who do not know how to brew beer.
 
Does that make them bad people?
2015/07/08 16:27:29
Mesh
No.
Just bad brewers.
 
I once won 3rd place in a swimming competition..........of course there were only three competitors.
2015/07/08 16:30:11
Beagle
bapu
If I only know two people and they do not know about how to brew beer, then conclude I know many people who do not know how to brew beer.
 
Does that make them bad people?


only if they don't know how to DRINK beer.  sheesh...
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