• SONAR
  • Grid follows main snap settings (p.3)
2011/08/19 17:00:00
Keni
Here's some news I wasn't thrilled about...

I reported this as a bug and I've been told it's as intended... this is really getting funny as we chase one idea that was made without thinking thru into a fix that again missed the point! Somewhat...

It seems that when you disable either the PRV snap or the Global snap, the PRV grid changes to the Global resolution... What a pain! So evertytime I disable snap, my grid is forced to change! How did they arrive at this wonderful idea?

I'm hoping that they thought ahead and made an ini variable or some such to adjust that behavior? It's half-worthless to me now... <sigh>...

...just as I was starting to think things were ok.

Wrong again!


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BTW... I just switched off the PRV snap and re-enable Ben's snap feature in Sonar Plus... It changes the global snap from a TV setting to a PRV setting, so that if I'm in PRV I can turn snap on/off yet still maintain the PRV's grid setting when off...

So, no problems here... Cakewalk can skip working on this as someone else has already taken care of it (tho it has some limitations)...

Cakewalk - Work on the envelope issues more!

;-)

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Keni

2011/08/19 17:29:02
Rodab
Wow, that is wierd, and to me it doesn't exactly make a lot of sense.  Id be ok with it if they made a way for you to draw a note and let you extend the length of the note so that it didn't follow snap settings without disabling the global snap... Otherwise I sorta use the grid to get things lined up and it gets pretty annoying.

Thanks for the report Keni.
2011/08/19 21:26:51
Keni
Rodab


Wow, that is wierd, and to me it doesn't exactly make a lot of sense.  Id be ok with it if they made a way for you to draw a note and let you extend the length of the note so that it didn't follow snap settings without disabling the global snap... Otherwise I sorta use the grid to get things lined up and it gets pretty annoying.

Thanks for the report Keni.


Exactly...

The grid is a visual reference as well as defining the places a snap will move to... This current PRV snap is useless to me. I've already abandoned it and returned to using Sonar Plus which simply changes the global snap abck and forth as you go to/from TV/PRV... At least that way, when I'm in PRV and turn snap off, the global is still set at my PRV values...

It was good that they realized the problem of having only a single snap value, but it seems they really didn't think this thru very well... They could have gotten it right with just a little more thought... ;-)

At least I can continue to work using Sonar Plus. I'm glad they didn't make an issue about these add-ons as they are too important to many of us...

I'm guessing that they will add some kind of option to deal with this, but when? Ben's program (Sonar Plus) causes no problems with Sonar and only ads to it... I must say I'm a bit surprised as they were so vocal about the fact that they solved the dual snap issue only to find some glaring issue they chose wrong about.... Yes, I think that this is an important issue... I could see that I may for some reason 'want' to switch to my global value, but certainly not often let alone every time I disable snap...

So while I'm a bit thrown off by it thinking they fixed it, I'm glad they tried and more glad I have Sonar Plus as a better solution...

Keni

2011/08/20 02:42:23
FastBikerBoy
I am seeing this now, I don't disable/enable snap much so never noticed it.

Worse still though is the obvious work round is to set the grid resolution to your chosen PRV snap value rather than "follow snap" but that doesn't work as the grid resolution resets itself to 1/4. Not only when switching the Global snap off but also turning the PRV snap on.

That surely can't be intended. Anyway I've reported it - CWBRN 5807
2011/08/21 06:11:42
Rodab
The worst part about it, is this is something that pretty much takes away a large portion of what was so nice about seperate snap settings....well at least for me!
2011/08/21 09:21:33
g_randybrown
I've also tried it by selecting a few notes in the PRV and pasting them into a new MIDI track in the TV.



I didn't realize that...seems it would be a more intuitive/easy way than doing this only in the PRV.
Thanks FBB,
Randy
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