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2014/05/08 01:28:35
jegenes
I'm a longtime Sonar user, and this may seem like an ignorant question (and it is...), but I can't seem to figure out how to disable audiosnap on tracks. I know there's a button in the Audiosnap window: "Enable/Disable Audiosnap on Selected Tracks". Here's what's happening:
 
I want to use Audiosnap on 1 track, so I select that clip and turn on the Transients tool. It takes awhile, and gives a message to wait until transients are created. It then creates transients on ALL tracks, including those that are archived. Not sure why it does this, but okay....
 
So, I select all the tracks except the one I want to work on, and click the "Disable" button, and the transient markers on all the other tracks disappear. Fine, so far.
 
If there are a lot of tracks in the project, Sonar begins to be sluggish, because Audiosnap is still enabled on all those tracks, even though there are not markers anymore. I can turn off the Transient tool, and when I save and close the project, sure enough... when I reopen it, Sonar gives the message that transients are being created, and voila! ALL the tracks again have markers.
 
How can I simply work on ONE track, without all the others being involved? I know I'm missing something fundamental here, but I just can't figure this one out. Thanks.
 
--john
2014/05/08 15:18:21
Steve_Karl
I'm not positive but it might just be the global snap that is hanging you up.
Try typing an "N" to toggle it on and off.
2014/05/08 21:57:47
jegenes
Thanks, Steve. Will check that. I see that there's no icon that actually tells you whether global snap is on or off, but I did find it in the flyout menu on the snap-to-grid icon. All these years of using Cakewalk stuff and I'd never noticed it before. Thanks again. Hopefully, that'll do the trick. 
 
best,
 
-john
2014/05/08 22:16:10
jegenes
Well, sadly, that didn't seem to make any difference. Opened the project and it gave the message about creating transients. As soon as it opened, I looked at the "Snap-To-Grid" dialog box. It was turned off, and the "Audio Transients" box inside it was unchecked. The Transient Tool was turned off, as well. I Typing "N" just seems to turn the "snap to grid" tool on and off.
I finally turned the Transient Tool on, which opened the Audiosnap window. I selected all tracks and clicked the "Disable Selected Transients" icon. Also, the "Show/Hide Transients" icon doesn't seem to show or hide anything when it's in this state.
So, I'm back to square one. It's not just this project. It seems to do it in all of them. If I turn on the Transient Tool at all, I seem to be stuck with Sonar loading transients from then on. The only way I found to disable it was to select the clips and "bounce to clip", creating a new audio file for each. It's a workaround, but a bit of a pain. And I know the program is probably working fine, but I'm missing something...
 
thanks again.
 
--john
2014/05/10 21:05:44
jegenes
I hate to belabour this, but it's maddening.... Still can't figure out how to actually TURN OFF AUDIOSNAP. Here's another example:
 
I just opened an existing project and it gave me the message "generating transients....". Once it finished, the project opened up and looked normal. The Transient Tool was OFF. There was no sign of any transients or markers on ANY tracks at all. How the heck do you tell if it's on, and which tracks it has worked on? I'm stumped...
 
Also, the Snap To Grid tool was turned off, and when I opened its dialogue box, the "Audio Transients" box was not checked.
 
How do you get Audiosnap to JUST GO AWAY? How do you select a track (or region) and "remove audiosnap", or "remove all transient markers"?
 
I feel like a complete moron for not figuring this out yet. (help....)
 
--john
2014/05/10 21:23:24
scook
While I doubt I can help with specific audiosnap problems, it is not clear what version of audiosnap is being used. One thing common to all versions of SONAR which have audiosnap is saving a project as a bundle completely removes audiosnap from the project. Prior to bundling bounce whatever has audiosnap clips that need to be retained. After creating the bundle, open it and save as a per-project folder before archiving the original project.
2014/05/10 22:55:28
teego
I don't use audiosnap very often, I find it easier to just do it over if there is an issue. however if memory serves me correctly the only way to stop that message of generating snap markers is to bounce the track to clips. I could be wrong though.
2014/05/19 22:22:12
jegenes
thanks for those replies. There are lots of tracks, although most are archived. Still, it doesn't seem to make a difference whether they're archived or not. It still creates transients for all of them, which I reckon is why Sonar begins to operate at a snail's pace, even with this computer with 12 gig of ram.
I'll go ahead and bounce ALL of the tracks to clips... jeez... All I want to do is turn the damned thing off.
 
Thanks again.
 
best,
 
--john
2014/05/19 22:56:07
Cactus Music
You can get the "generating Transients" message even if you have never used audio snap... I do. I haven't used audio snap on any currant projects I'm now working on , but even today I had that message on one project. To me it is just the computers CPU dogging it a bit to re-draw the audio images. 
2014/05/20 01:25:28
jegenes
I was thinking that might be the case, so it's nice to know that someone else get the messages. But it's only after I use Audiosnap that it occurs. And I don't even have to select any tracks or mess with them. Just clicking the Audiosnap icon does it. 
 
Here's the irony: you can't tell if any transients have been made unless you turn on Audiosnap. If you do turn it on, you start getting the erro msgs. 
 
I did bounce all the tracks to clips and it has stopped giving me the message. Seems like an inelegant workaround, though. 
 
--j
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