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2015/08/05 23:50:51
ampfixer
Well, not so much killing me, more like driving me nuts.
 
I had a glimpse of Win 10 the other day. When I use it, It's like taking my phone, Office 13, a game console and social networking apps and dumping them into a blender for a Micro-Smoothie. I hate Office 13 and those ribbon menu's. It figures that it's the interface all over Win 10. I could never tell for sure if I was working on my pc in isolation or doing cloud stuff. It's so much more than as OS for computers. They want to blur the lines on the various aspects of my life.
 
Little share icons all over the place, what's that about? People come to visit and the computer asks if I want to let them use the wi-fi. THere's even a way to do it automatically. I'm more of a Shrek type.
 
Is there anything really good in the OS that makes it an intelligent upgrade? More importantly is there a way to make it look less complicated without adding overhead by way of an emulator? I'd like to completely remove all social networking components and tighten the wi-fi access.
 
That's not including the lack of drivers for my peripherals. Whole other story.
2015/08/05 23:59:50
Doktor Avalanche

2015/08/06 00:05:17
Sycraft
You just turn off the WiFi sharing thing if you don't like it (I did). It is just a setting you can change. As for the share stuff, I haven't really noticed any of that, what are you talking about in particular? Maybe you get more if you use a Microsoft account, but you can just use a local one.
 
I haven't used it all that extensively, since it is on my laptop only at this point, but I haven't had any annoying issues thus far.
2015/08/06 01:15:17
ampfixer
Windows 10 has the stink of an old Carny. It seemed like I was being asked for a MS account before I could actually explore a feature I was curious about. That's what I meant when I said that it was hard to tell when you were on the net, and when you were off. SO I was asked for an Xbox account when I thought I was opening a folder with games on my local machine.
 
I really don't worry too much about the privacy issues. What I don't like is the actual interface on open windows. It looks like it was grafted on from Office 13. I own Office 13 with Outlook and now there's a different Outlook with the same look and feel as the Office version. The new one kept pestering me for a MS account and I couldn't proceed without it. The Office version didn't want to talk to the Win version.
 
Things like that really enforce my analogy. Win 7 >> Win 10  =  Sonar 8.5.3 >> Sonar 2015
 
It will take a couple years for me to stop talking about the good ol' days based on past experience. 
2015/08/06 01:16:11
RD9
Ampfixer,
You are not wrong about the blurred lines, I think most of the new features will be superfluous to most Sonar users.  Several of us have posted previously in the following forum about what should be turned off if you want to maintain your sanity:  http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3266424  My suggestion is to turn off everything, Microsoft can no longer be trusted to err on the conservative side.
 
I have installed Win 10 on my netbook in order to get familiar with it but am sticking with Win 7 for my computer with Sonar.  My plan is to upgrade to 10 once the dust has settled a bit and we can clearly see what we are buying into with the "New Microsoft".  ~6 months should do it.
 
R
2015/08/06 02:39:48
arachnaut
I avoided the MS Account and all that sharing stuff.
On my laptop I made a special user with a MS Account, but I have yet to try it out.
Maybe it's age-related and I'm an old fogey, but all that stuff just does not interest me at all.
 
2015/08/06 02:58:44
jih64
While I found Windows 10 to work well enough, apart from Edge not getting along with this forum and continually crashing/reloading if I edited my post and tried to get my cursor back to where I was, or double clicked in the text box, I absolutely hated looking at it, it was hideous, and I could find no way to make it acceptable.
 
It reminds me of back in the days when I was heavily into gaming, and around the time that gaming consoles started appearing and becoming more popular. First off the PC was king of gaming, far more powerful, far more configurable. Gaming developers would work on the PC version, then the console version, they were pretty much kept separate, PC games were ported over to consoles. Then as time went on things started to merge, and compromises began to be made to the PC versions as to accommodate the limitations of the consoles, things began to be dumbed down. Then one day you woke up and the PC was receiving ports of console games, like the consoles were more important and the PC an after thought, and dev's seemed more interested in the console market, and the thing that made the PC such a great gaming platform was forgotten about as to accommodate for the limitations of the consoles, things were dumbed down to the detriment of PC gaming, and then we have what we have today. I do understand the reasons, if the size of the market dictates it, but that doesn't make it better.
 
This is very much what Windows 10 felt like to me, dumbed down to accommodate compatibility with tablets, mobile phones etc. I won't be moving from Windows 7 until I am forced to by software and/or hardware requirements.
2015/08/06 13:16:15
Atsuko
Jeff, after the win 10 update, is your Delta 1010 working ok? Thanks.
2015/08/06 13:38:42
RSMCGUITAR
I fail to see how win 10 is a dumbed down win 7
2015/08/06 14:35:35
kitekrazy1
RSMCGUITAR
I fail to see how win 10 is a dumbed down win 7



You have to take some additional steps that you didn't before.  I realized there is no create shortcut to desktop. You now have to drag and drop from that big piece of real estate they call a start menu.
 
Unfortunately too many things are dumbed down for the cell phone generation.  Look at Edge. Chrome is just as bad. I like those menus on my browser.
 
While DAW developers are making portable apps hopefully the don't do the same gui for desktop/phones because I will revert to using older software.
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