I'm not sure what is meant by "sampler" Sonar comes with Dimension Pro a sample player as well as various drum sampler players. Rapture is also a sample player. If one is looking for a full sampler like Kontakt I don't know of a lot of DAWs that come with that level of sampler. Samplitude has Independence Pro which is a good one but I don't think it is better or as good as Kontakt. 
 
I have a couple of questions. Are you interested in creating your own samples? Are you looking for ways to modify or cut up samples? What features would you want to see in a CW sampler. 
 
 

 

 
 
 
 
   

chuckebaby
 
if those pieces are there, (Beatscape,Cyclone) then why not use them now ?
if your argument is "They are dated" then how are the Bakers supposed to reuse the code from these products ?

I'm just offering suggestions here, Chuck, not a blueprint.
 
For my own use case...
 
1.) I don't own Beatscape, and I'm guessing most here don't either.
 
2.) Cyclone is only 32-bit. :(
 
Another suggestion, maybe Cakewalk could offer Beatscape as a Sonar Pro/Platinum benefit? Unsupported, of course.

P5v3x64 with Loop Construction FTW!

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1.) I don't own Beatscape, and I'm guessing most here don't either.
 
 
 
 

If you have Sonar 8 Producer you do.

John
 
If you have Sonar 8 Producer you do.

Thank you, John. I didn't hop aboard the Sonar train until X3. I was a Music Creator/Kinetic customer prior to that.

Maybe I am just too old school, but to me a sampler (in hardware terms) could record  a sample, edit a sanple and playback a sample. While a number of plug ins mentioned above will do the edit and playback, it will 90% of the time require a stand alone to record a sample whether it is live or as part of a stream of non copyrighted material.
For the last two pre-requisites, here are a lot of these about, I have just bought Iris 2 which will do two out of three, but also have numerous others including simpler which also does the same two out of three.
It is how you record the samples in the first place that is of interest for me who wants to create my own samples as opposed to using library stock.
 
Not exactly helpful I know, but it helps define the full scope of what is required from a sampler.
 
 

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chuckebaby
 
if those pieces are there, (Beatscape,Cyclone) then why not use them now ?
if your argument is "They are dated" then how are the Bakers supposed to reuse the code from these products ?

I'm just offering suggestions here, Chuck, not a blueprint.
 
For my own use case...
 
1.) I don't own Beatscape, and I'm guessing most here don't either.
 
2.) Cyclone is only 32-bit. :(
 
Another suggestion, maybe Cakewalk could offer Beatscape as a Sonar Pro/Platinum benefit? Unsupported, of course.

I understand where your coming from. Im not arguing with you just for the sake of a debate.
im just thinking these plug ins were coded many years ago. im not sure if there is much to salvage from them.
 
Beatscape was a great VST-I platform. I say platform because it had some bugs. it needed some work.
im guessing that's why it was discontinued in Sonar X2 (wasn't included)
to be honest, im not even sure it was part of Sonar X1, I think it was but I know for a fact it was shipped with Sonar 8.

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2.) Cyclone is only 32-bit. :(
 

Cyclone cannot be 32bit only or it would be unavailable in 64bit SONAR. Cyclone is a DXi.

scook
 
Cyclone cannot be 32bit only or it would be unavailable in 64bit SONAR. Cyclone is a DXi.

I stand corrected.

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scook
 
Cyclone cannot be 32bit only or it would be unavailable in 64bit SONAR. Cyclone is a DXi.

I stand corrected.

 
There's much bigger issues with Cyclone than that anyway, It's ridiculously buggy