JoseC.

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Anderton
Hey, remember that instrument I proposed several posts back? Here it is, have fun! It actually does more than the original proposal. like visual pitch transposition.

I saw this coming. Not Cyclone specifically, but when you said "what if I proposed," I had a feeling that a tutorial for existing tools was forthcoming.
 
I'm not complaining. It was kind of you to put it together. However, I don't think Cakewalk will be winning anyone over with 15 year old DirectX instruments.

Well, Ableton Live still has the same proprietary instruments since it started, an nobody seems to complain. Some of them are even licensed from other vendors (AAS). They are improving Simpler, that is not new AFAIK, and making its integration with Push a selling point for the software. And let's not start about Reason :)

In this case the Ableton equivalent to Cyclone would be Drum Racks I guess, and to be completely honest Cyclone is not even in the same ballpark when it comes to functionality, workflow, and flexibility.  And the fact that they are actively improving Simpler is part of the point.  Cyclone and/or Dropzone are NOT being improved upon or updated with new functionality.  Many here, including myself, have said that an updated/improved version of Cyclone or Dropzone would probably suffice rather than Cakewalk developing something totally new.
 

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Anderton
Hey, remember that instrument I proposed several posts back? Here it is, have fun! It actually does more than the original proposal. like visual pitch transposition.

I saw this coming. Not Cyclone specifically, but when you said "what if I proposed," I had a feeling that a tutorial for existing tools was forthcoming.
 
I'm not complaining. It was kind of you to put it together. However, I don't think Cakewalk will be winning anyone over with 15 year old DirectX instruments.

 
The object wasn't to "win people over," it was to show that SONAR has an instrument that does what people want if only they knew about it...now they do. So what if it's DXi? It works. (FWIW I think it's more like 11 years old; I first wrote about it in 2005). There's also info on how to use Cyclone in a Knowledgebase article. 
 
Sure, there are more things in the pipeline but people said they'd like an instrument that did what I said it would do, and you have that option right now. Just because something isn't new doesn't mean it's invalid...or '59 Les Pauls would sell for a few hundred dollars . 
 
My priority with SONAR is making music, and I can make music just fine with the existing tools. This doesn't mean I don't want some more tools, or that additional tools aren't being developed; just that nothing is stopping me from doing what I want to do. YMMV.
 
 

I'm pretty sure Cakewalk introduced Cyclone in Sonar 2.0, but I digress, as that's neither here nor there.
 
As far as winning people over, I was speaking to Sonar's appeal to "beats" people like me, as we are now known. It wasn't directed at you or your excellent tutorials. In my first post in this thread, I linked to one of my favorite posts of yours.
 
Unfortunately, virtual instruments don't appreciate in value or prestige as time goes on -- unlike their classic, real world counterparts.

My ultimate concern with the "right now" mentality is that it comes across as the final answer, i.e., this whole thread will get swept under the rug and forgotten. If the same level of effort was put into upgrades as finding excuses that they were not needed or already exist, it would double the progress.

Somebody a few posts back mentioned Cyclone as compared to the Drum Racks in Live ..
I honestly don't feel that Cyclone VS Drum Racks is a fair comparison at all ....
 
IMHO, a much more fair comparison would be to compare Cakewalks Velocity to Abelton's  Drum Racks 
 
Velocity comes w 18 pads and it behaves pretty much "along the lines " of Drum Racks ...
Each Pad can be tuned , adjusted for volume and Pan ...
You can load your samples "not only drums" and save your own custom Kits ...
 

 
 
all the best,
 
Kenny
 

kennywtelejazz
Somebody a few posts back mentioned Cyclone as compared to the Drum Racks in Live ..
I honestly don't feel that Cyclone VS Drum Racks is a fair comparison at all ....
 
IMHO, a much more fair comparison would be to compare Cakewalks Velocity to Abelton's  Drum Racks 
 
Velocity comes w 18 pads and it behaves pretty much "along the lines " of Drum Racks ...
Each Pad can be tuned , adjusted for volume and Pan ...
You can load your samples "not only drums" and save your own custom Kits ...
 

 
 
all the best,
 
Kenny
 

Like I said before, P5V3x64 ...

Although this is a very big thread, it seems to me that there are only half a dozen really active participants. At the end of the day it's comes down to another case of attack and defend, just like most other big threads. 
 
I think Cakewalk is going to do what they want, when they want. You can't run a company based on the wishes of a small sample of customers. People that hang out here and post regularly are not the norm, they're the exception. 

I think I see a dead horse a few miles down the road...right next to the staff view.

ampfixer
Although this is a very big thread, it seems to me that there are only half a dozen really active participants. At the end of the day it's comes down to another case of attack and defend, just like most other big threads. 
 
I think Cakewalk is going to do what they want, when they want. You can't run a company based on the wishes of a small sample of customers. People that hang out here and post regularly are not the norm, they're the exception. 

bramwell
I think I see a dead horse a few miles down the road...right next to the staff view.

That's a lot of speculation. This thread had fallen to the 2nd page of the Sonar forum with Bruce's (tenfoot) last post.
 
Guess who bumped it?

 
 
Guess who bumped it?




 
The longer it goes...the deader it gets........