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  • Sonar really needs a sampler. (p.5)
2016/10/17 13:35:46
pwalpwal
BobF
pwalpwal
Anderton many people still run 32-bit systems.


do the analytics show this? shows how slow people are to keep up with the latest gubbins!




The latest eZine has an OS breakdown at the end


would be interesting to see the percentages for each, the top 3 are x64


2016/10/17 14:23:35
mdages
I don't think that Sonar really needs a sampler. There are so many good of them on the market.
Most people working much with samples, own NI Kontakt, Motu MachFive, UVI Falcon or Air Structure.
And further don't forget that you can record samples in Sonar and alter them with many edit tools and effects. You can put your audio samples easily to the matrix view, Dropzone or Cyclone to play your samples. Another interesting one is to put your audio samples to Cakewalk's Rapture or Rapture Pro.
 
If you want more that Sonar provides with its tools and instruments, than invest to one of the good 3rd party samplers.
 
-Markus
 
2016/10/17 14:25:46
TranceCanada
Rapture is a sampler, so is SFZ
2016/10/17 15:09:19
Anderton
pwalpwal
would be interesting to see the percentages for each, the top 3 are x64

 
Actually analytics doesn't measure percentages, it measures usage. So all we really know is that the greatest usage of SONAR occurs with 64-bit systems, but for all we know that could be a small number of pros who use SONAR constantly, or tons of casual users. The one thing that's certain is 32-bit systems are on the way out...but they're not dead yet.
 
 
 
2016/10/17 15:31:56
killerbee1985
mdages
I don't think that Sonar really needs a sampler. There are so many good of them on the market.
Most people working much with samples, own NI Kontakt, Motu MachFive, UVI Falcon or Air Structure.
 
 
-Markus
 


If you put it that way then sonar also doesn't need an Equalizer or Compressor, Reverb Plugins because there are plenty on the market and many people use Waves Bundles or Fabfilter Plugins.
2016/10/17 15:34:55
bladetragic
Anderton
bladetragic
Like it or not, outside of Pro Tools, a BIG reason a lot of the other big named DAWs have soared in popularity is because they strongly appeal to the "beat-making", electronic, hip-hop, R&B, EDM crowd and this is a tool that is very important in drawing in new users in that crowd.  I'm not saying that Cakewalk should only focus on those types, but I don't think that they should totally overlook them either.

 
And those programs are part of the reason why Pro Tools is slipping, too. It's a shame that SONAR was so ahead of the curve on this at one point (and also Project5), and when it didn't get traction, they just let it sit. I've been pushing for some enhancements along these lines but realistically, I don't think anything's going to happen until they get comping, ripple editing, and workspaces implemented. Those are major efforts. But I agree completely that even just a few beat-oriented tweaks would make a big difference. 
 



Thanks for being objective Craig.  That's all I'm saying.  I'm not saying Sonar needs to drop everything else and totally focus all it's efforts on something like this, but I think a little attention in this area would go a long way.
2016/10/17 16:02:23
bladetragic
killerbee1985
mdages
I don't think that Sonar really needs a sampler. There are so many good of them on the market.
Most people working much with samples, own NI Kontakt, Motu MachFive, UVI Falcon or Air Structure.
 
 
-Markus
 


If you put it that way then sonar also doesn't need an Equalizer or Compressor, Reverb Plugins because there are plenty on the market and many people use Waves Bundles or Fabfilter Plugins.




Exactly. 
 
I have said this multiple times but people want to disregard that fact.  For what reason, I don't know.  Maybe because it doesn't fit their particular needs.  Or perhaps they just haven't read through the comments.  Who knows?  But the logic is flawed.
2016/10/17 16:20:31
telecharge
I'm with the OP on this in that I would like to see at least a basic sampler integrated into Sonar. I've never owned Beatscape, but I do own Cakewalk ScratchPad HD on iOS. I don't pretend to understand the baker's magic, but with that code, one would hope they could figure a way to marry the two and add them to Sonar.
2016/10/17 16:22:45
TranceCanada
telecharge
I'm with the OP on this in that I would like to see at least a basic sampler integrated into Sonar. I've never owned Beatscape, but I do own Cakewalk ScratchPad HD on iOS. I don't pretend to understand the baker's magic, but with that code, one would hope they could figure a way to marry the two and add them to Sonar.




There is a very basic sampler included in Sonar, with SFZ, even Rapture is a very good sampler
2016/10/17 16:25:22
telecharge
TranceCanada
 
 
There is a very basic sampler included in Sonar, with SFZ, even Rapture is a very good sampler


I saw your previous post. Thanks, but it's not the same.
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