2015/06/17 18:33:54
batsbrew
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/50-greatest-prog-rock-albums-of-all-time-20150617


prog rock...... not jazz rock, or jazz fusion.
that's a whole 'nuther basket.....



...kinda cool.

i like a LOT of these,
my favorites are missing, tho.

Brand X, Masques
Todd Rundgren, Initiation
Cosmosquad, Squadraphenia
Allan Holdsworth, Secrets
Mahavishnu Orchestra, Inner Mounting Flame
Dixie Dregs, Night of the Living Dregs
Tony Williams Lifetime, Million Dollar Legs
Billy Cobham, spectrum
Dream Theatre, Falling into Infinity
Muse, The Resistance
Mastodon, Crack the Sky
Rush, Clockwork Angels
Steven Wilson,Grace for Drowning
2015/06/17 18:52:53
bayoubill
Thanks for the post! I now have a new "listen to" list
2015/06/17 21:19:40
batsbrew
well, you know, i started with the usual suspects....
deep purple....
led zeppelin......
beatles, stones, etc...
 
but ended up gravitating to the more progressive stuff.....
 
 
 
i tripped across this list by accident,
and it made me think about developing as an artist,
what there was out there to 'aspire' to,
and it's some good stuff!
2015/06/18 02:09:54
craigb
Oh great!  I can't imagine how much time I'm likely to spend going over this - lol!
 
First to see if there's anything on there I don't already have... 
 
 
2015/06/18 02:23:06
craigb
Yikes!  A quick look and I can already tell you that Pedro will soon be in here posting a novel!
 
A few interesting choices and some notable missing work (as is the norm with any RollingStone "Best Of" list).
 
Djam Karet (for example) has got some albums that are definitely better than a few on that list.
 
2015/06/18 10:09:40
Moshkito
Hi,
 
The list is:
 
Happy the Man
Ruins
FM (Black Noise)
Crack in the Sky
Carmen (Fandangos)
Triumvirat (Illusions on a )
Strawbs (Hero and Heroine)
ELO (Eldorado)
Meshuggah (Destroy Erase Improve)
 
AD2 (Yeti)
Soft Machine (3)
PTree (Fear of a Blank Planet)
Gong (You)
Marillion (Clutch at Straws)
Harmonium (Si On Avait Besoin D'Une)
Banco (1st)
Caravan (In the Land of Grey and Pink)
Tool (Lateralus)
 
Kansas (LeftOverture)
Renaissance (Ashes are Burning)
UK (UK)
Dream Theater (Metropolis 2)
Opeth (Blackwater Park)
Supertramp (Crime of the Century)
VdGG (Pawn Hearts)
The Mars Volta (De-Loused)
Magma (Mekanik)
Tangerine Dream (Phaedra)
 
Rush (2112) Camel (Mirage)
KC (Lark's Tongues)
PFM (Per Un Amico)
FZappa (One Size Fits All)
Mike Oldfield (Tubular Bells)
Gentle Giant (Octopus)
King Crimson (Red)
Genesis (Foxtrot)
Pink Floyd (Animals)
 
ELP (Brain Salad Surgery)
Rush (Hemispheres)
YES (Fragile)
Genesis (Lamb)
CAN (Future Days)
JT (Thick as a Brick)
Genesis (Selling England)
YES (Close to the Edge)
Pink Floyd (Wish You Were Here)
Rush (Moving Pictures)
KC (In the Court)
PF (Dark Side of the Moon)
 
Wow ... I'm only missing 10 of these albums in my collection! And 8 of them I won't get ... like Rush, Kansas since I have already heard them a zillion times!
 
(More in a bit!)
2015/06/18 10:14:15
batsbrew
Crack the Sky....
 
the one i like is "Safety In Numbers"
 
2015/06/18 10:27:19
Moshkito
Hi,
 
All in all, this is probably the best list that RS has ever made, and it is really not as great as it could be, and it still goes way too much towards the "hits" and the best known bands. Rush is a very good band, but aside from one or two albums, it is hardly progressive. But it is very nice music!
 
The list is missing somethings here and there, that could easily have replaced duplicate albums, which is my biggest complaint ... it should not be about "albums" but "artists" and this would take out a bunch of albums by YES and GENESIS, RUSH and KING CRIMSON, and make room for other bands that deserve the credit.
 
It just gets boring, listing the "albums" as if it were a top of the pops thing ... and this is not a good way to define the "art" ... at all! It is based on the high and the mighty sales, though the list went out of the way to get around that with some very good listings!
 
It was, NICE, to see Rolling Stone, finally accredit something that from day one they went out of their way to trash senselessly. However, to have "Close to the Edge" and not "Tales from Topographic Oceans", still tells you that they want hit materials and not eccentric pieces of music ... making one wonder if Stravinsky would even make a dent today, instead of 90 years ago! Not likely, because the music would have been so weird that Rolling Stone would immediately tell you that Henry Cow, Slapp Happy, Cabaret Voltaire and Faust is just total crap and not music!
 
Missing for starters:
Ange - Au Dela Du Delire (or even Emile Jacotey)
Djam Karet - Suspension and Replacement
Jean Michel Jarre - Oxygene
Vangelis - Blade Runner Sdtk (or even Chariots of Fire Sdtk)
Aphorodite's Child 666
Focus - Moving Waves (or Hamburger Concerto)
Kayak - See See the Sun
Klaus Schulze (since they got TD)
Riuychi Sakamoto - Beauty
Egberto Gismonti - No Caipira (original)
Terje Rypdal - Eos (with David Darling)
XTC - The Big Express
The Groundhogs - Cross Cut Saw (and Black Diamond)
Herd of Instinct - Conjure
 
The surprises in the listing are actually nice and OK with me. Renaissance, Can (not their most progressive at all!!!), ELO, FM, Carmen and even Strawbs, were all very nice albums and enjoyable all around.
2015/06/18 10:31:53
batsbrew
vangelis does not rock,
for me.
 
heheh
 
but point taken
2015/06/18 10:42:58
Moshkito
Hi,
 
I'm not a "good" person to help with a description of "progressive" music.
 
The reason why is that I am "multi-national", and too much of the list in the "progressive" thing is just a cultural list that fits one or two countries, but not a whole lot of others, and they leave behind way too many things ... with one exception ... gotta have a lot (never too much!) of English and American since they own the world, and some folks in the PA board are even vehement about having "started" progressive, as the term apparently was first used by Melody Maker and the New Music Express way back in 1969 or 1970. Thus, having the English contingent, means that they "defined" progressive, since no one knew to apply the term to any other language or culture at the time!
 
Now we have some issues ... you have heard about the War of Roses, right? Guess what? Not a single "French" anything will ever show up in that list! AND, btw, GONG was more AUSTRALIAN, than it was English! But Daevid got his start in Soft Machine with the BEAT POETS that were all living in the same house as he and most Soft Machine folks were!
 
My issue with the term, would suggest, then, that anything from Latin America, South America, even the Far - East, has no chance for creating anything that could also be considered "progressive", when some of the things listed in the English/American list were nothing but a nice mix of present and past musics ... like they never happened in India or Japan, or Chile?
 
It only suggests that we do not listen to music ... we only listen to hits, and that which we are fed by mom and pop!
 
To be "truly" progressive, you have to get off that mode, and learn to listen to anything/everything ... and that is hard for many of us, even me sometimes, though I have less problems with cultural musics, due to my travels and appreciation for different things.
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