2015/05/28 09:04:28
Moshkito
Karyn
That was a really great review Drew,  almost made me want to go out and buy it, but I'll stick with beautiful triple gate-fold I have locked away.




Some albums are worth keeping. Along with this would be the original foldout Hawkwind cover for the double LP "Space Ritual". Very neat! Or Walter Wegmuller's Tarot, with a small deck inside. Or a Faust LP that is clear plastic and cover!
 
2015/05/28 15:27:12
drewfx1
Stop it before I have to go down and actually pull out some of those big strange plasticky discs that I vaguely remember, but do remember sometimes coming in most decidedly cool packaging. 
2015/05/28 22:46:26
craigb
I just remember that physical products required packaging, which required shelf space, which required boxes, which required storage, which is still costing me an arm and a leg until I can get rid of all my physical stuff!
2015/05/28 23:30:16
ampfixer
Too bad they didn't offer a price for just one concert of your choice. I'd snap up Toronto in a minute. Maple Leaf Gardens, where I discovered live music in the 70's.
 
Now I'll have to buy the whole bunch. 
2015/05/29 00:07:15
synkrotron
Thanks Drew...
 
It's from '72... I'm not even going to look at what tracks are on that collection, it is a must have for me (both sets of CD's) ... Sticking it on my Christmas list now...........
2015/05/29 05:41:51
soens
craigb
I just remember that physical products required packaging, which required shelf space, which required boxes, which required storage, which is still costing me an arm and a leg until I can get rid of all my physical stuff!



I hear you're   virtually   almost there....
 

2015/05/31 11:47:10
Moshkito
Hi,
 
While I do not dislike the stuff they are bringing us on that set, I'm really sad.
 
I've heard bootlegs of a couple of "TFTO" and they were very good, but obviously Chris Squire doesn't like them, or does not wish to give Jon any more credit than he already gets. OR, a bootleg of YES doing stuff from "Relayer", with Patrick Moraz, and I have no idea where that was from, but the long cut was actually better than the stuff on the album that in the Steve Howe parts, actually sounded a bit strange and out of control and just completely unrehearsed and designed. This was by comparison to that one bootleg, which had bad sound quality, but the music was very good to my ears!
 
It's sad. It kinda says that Chris does not like Patrick and will not give him a cent, and Patrick still says he never got anything from YES, and was considered a hired hand for food, water and a kick in the ash! I'm actually thinking that Chris probably thinks that Patrick's ability to replace Rick Wakeman was too difficult and did not come out as well as one hoped. The bootleg only had Roundabout, otherwise, which any decent band can do even these days!
 
I find that kind of stuff sad, disrespectful to the artists involved, and it was the reason why I never bought another album after "Relayer", after hearing what happened. And I found some of the stuff they did later totally overblown and not that good. There were many European bands doing way better by that time!
2015/05/31 12:51:10
drewfx1
Without getting into too much detail regarding "unofficial" releases... 
 
Moshkito
Hi,
 
While I do not dislike the stuff they are bringing us on that set, I'm really sad.
 
I've heard bootlegs of a couple of "TFTO" and they were very good, but obviously Chris Squire doesn't like them, or does not wish to give Jon any more credit than he already gets.

 
The only TFTO tour recordings I'm aware of are (sadly) audience recordings. Or are you talking about later recordings of songs from TFTO?
 

OR, a bootleg of YES doing stuff from "Relayer", with Patrick Moraz, and I have no idea where that was from, but the long cut was actually better than the stuff on the album that in the Steve Howe parts, actually sounded a bit strange and out of control and just completely unrehearsed and designed. This was by comparison to that one bootleg, which had bad sound quality, but the music was very good to my ears!

 
There are a few excellent recordings from the Relayer and  "Solo Albums" tours from late '74 through '76, some of which shows up on the official Yesshows release and The Word is Live box set from a few years ago. Some of the other recordings may have been FM radio broadcasts and it's unknown whether they are available for release.
 
There is also the gray-area video release from QPR in '75 described here:
 
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yes:_Live_–_1975_at_Q.P.R.
 
[Copy and paste it - this SFS doesn't let me fix stuff even when I freaking edit the HTML directly ]
 
The first half or so has major sound problems, but once fixed... 
 
 
That said, I would of course welcome any additional official releases of classic live recordings. And supposedly Steve is the one who may have tapes in his personal archives, not Chris.
2015/06/03 11:30:15
Moshkito
drewfx1
 
Without getting into too much detail regarding "unofficial" releases...
...
That said, I would of course welcome any additional official releases of classic live recordings. And supposedly Steve is the one who may have tapes in his personal archives, not Chris.

 
What I found specially sad, was that TRANSATLANTIC could do an excellent part of TFTO and YES can't. And I would like to see a sampling that is less concentrated on the "hits" ... because there is a lot of music in this band that I was not the only person that appreciated it.
 
I lost a lot of care and respect for many of them, when Rick Wakeman started trashing TFTO after he left YES. Nowadays he is a bit kinder about it, after seeing how others have come to love it, but in the end, as an artist, there is nothing to dislike or not appreciate about your earlier work ... it was a part of you, and it is a part of you, and if you think that 10% of you is trash and bad, what makes you think that I am supposed to still like him, or his work? I find more than 10% of his solo albums as very pretentious and uppitty class over blown stuff ... very inflated by the ego, and gave up on it after the second album!
 
A band, to me, is a "composer" ... you and I may like different songs and pieces, but it's still BAch, Mozart, Beethoven, Stravinsky and what not. I have my preferences for some of the work by YES and I appreciate the "artist", but found it really hard to see them give creedence to lousy pop music reviewers that wanted another hit, and not a piece of music, that you and I would consider more important and valuable in terms of music history and the development of rock music, than just ... another song that will be forgotten tomorrow!
 
I don't understand, why so much of the "populist" ideals are intent on bringing rock music down to the pedestrian level ... all music has the ability to be better ... but it will never be appreciated until the attitudes change, and it starts with us!
2015/06/07 15:18:58
Moshkito
drewfx1
Stop it before I have to go down and actually pull out some of those big strange plasticky discs that I vaguely remember, but do remember sometimes coming in most decidedly cool packaging. 


Man's "Be Good To Yourself At least Once a Day" ... with the foldout inside, and that map of Wales (not even sure it was Wales!) with musicians ... that was cool.
 
(One of my favorite pieces is "C'mon" that they did and the one live from "Back Into the Future" is phenomenal!)
 
 
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