One in each hand Phil, one in each hand...

Hi Mark,

Yea, I thought (and still think) the first version was great but I think this sounds even better... 

Very subtle. But, I can hear it on my laptop. It's like a glue that sort of meshes all the individual sounds into one cohesive sound. Wonder if some sort of tape emulation would do the same. Same idea anyway. I think it would be pleasant to mix through this plug.  
Nice stuff Mark and Robbay.

I use Saturn? It is a very nice saturation plug-in? And it gives you the option of what type of saturation to use, and which tone bands, etc... l don't know if it works the way the plug Mark has used here? He is much better at the mixing than am I, "much better." 

But the whole idea of an analog console? Is at the very basic level I believe, "saturation?" There are many tools to accomplish this? Lots of good ones, like the WAVS plug Mark references here? I personally use, "and really like and recommend?" 

http://www.fabfilter.com/products/saturn-multi-band-distortion-saturation-plug-in

Not saying it's the same, better, or worse? Just that an analog console plug basically emulates old gear? Which basically introduces distortion? That's not a bad thing? In fact, it can be a very good thing!

The cool thing about Saturn is that you can use it as an effect on a drum bus? Or you can use it as a distortion effect on a guitar track? It's very versatile. 

Again, this is not to take away from anything WAVs is providing! I think the remix sounds much better. I'm merely discussing another tool which "may" be in the same family? There are many other sat plugs, many less $$ but also perhaps less goodness? (WAVs and or Fab) Nice plugs typically cost a few bux? You can get free ones, but an argument can be made that they are free for a reason...

It does sound more glued together.

Which, of course, is just a fancy way of saying it is harmonically smeared! Wonder what we would say if we grew up in the digital age instead of crappy vinyl records...

Lynn - I think Waves has extended the Redd Console March sale and it is available yet for $149.   One of the things I like about it, besides the fuller analogue console sound, are the Abbey Road EQ curves.   There is a video on YouTube where a gent reviews the Redd Console features.  I think it is Zo from the Cakewalk Forums.   The bit I was particularly interested in were his review of the Tone Controls and subsequent EQ curves between 4:31-11:42.
 
Vicente - Thanks, that is exactly what I heard with the plug,  Warmer and more fullness.
 
Phil - Makes perfect sense, this is exactly the sound that I felt has eluded my mixes from the beginning.  They are all just a bit sterile sounding.  I feel this plug has added some nice dimension to the track.
 
Gary - Thanks for the comment, I am happy with the result.
 
Tim - I actually have Cakewalk FX Tape Sim on all the guitar and vocal tracks.   It does help considerably to take some harshness away and add a bit of meat to the sound.    I feel the tape sim and the ProChannel Console Emulation together made a good combination but I just don't think it was quite as good as this.   I could spend hours tweaking but would rather stick a plug in the track and call it a day;)   Thanks for the listen.
 
James - You ask an excellent question.  I grew up in the 70's and harmonic smearing or "the analogue sound" was what we had and it was pretty good.   This is the sound I like.   However, kids today may listen to this and think it is garbage because they are used to a digital and uber-compressed sound.   I am glad that this is a hobby and not a career so I don't have to contemplate this and other mind numbing topics related to the music industry;)
 
Regards
 
 

A love story gone wrong, autobiographical? Perhaps... 

It does have a nice round bottom? And we all know how much I enjoy? Well, you know....

I could never resist a nice round bottom. Miss Vida Guerra... Try to look away?

Nice job! Yes get the NLS. I have it and the redd and they are wonderful!

This sounds terrific... love the new mix... BTW, I love vinyl too...

I do like vinyl? But I LOVE leather...