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2013/04/29 23:19:13
The Band19
I'm all about "perfection..." listen to my shiz..."
2013/04/29 23:49:29
THE NIGHT FOX
The Band19


I'm all about "perfection..." listen to my shiz..."
 
Robby Robby , its all a game of words right !  LOL
 


2013/05/04 23:02:24
THE NIGHT FOX
Hi back again , I made some changes in my new song by deleting some unwanted muddy sounding track .
I finally got Guitar Rig 4 LE working in Project 5 and recorded this little sample , problem is I'm hearing this crackle sound in different places in the track .
Any suggestions on how to get rid of that sound I'm hearing , I don't do alot of recording with Audio tracks except for vocals stuff .

http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?q=hi&songID=12304707

By the way I created two guitar audio tracks and pan each one left and right .
Added some compression , EQ in my Guitar Rig setup for this recording .
I know its not the best sounding mix but its a start , I can see there more to recording and mixing guitar tracks then I thought so give me some space I'm working on it one step at a time .
 
Oh yea I forgot to say I'm going to add a chord progression midi track in next to mix in with this guitar track I recorded to see what that sounds like , maybe a voilin track or rock organ sound .

Thanks for the listen and any postive feedback -James
2013/05/05 04:51:54
SteveStrummerUK
THE NIGHT FOX


 
... during that time I had some issues with this guitar staying in tune so last wek I went out and bought a new set of guitar strings and replace the strings that was on it when I bought this guitar from SweetWater .
Now it sounds in tune when I play it and stays in tune so the new set of strings did fix that issue I was having . 

Hi James
 
Whether you're using new or older guitar strings, it's always a good idea to regularly check both the 'action' and the 'intonation' of your guitar.
 
The action of a guitar refers to the height of each string above the fretboard:
  • If the action of a string is set too high, you will have to press down on it much more to fret the notes
  • If it's set too low, then you will hear a buzzing sound when you play a note, as the vibrating string comes into contact with the frets
The intonation of a guitar refers to how well it stays in tune as you fret different notes along the length of the fretboard. The intonation of each separate string is governed by its length:
  • If a string is too 'long' for the scale length of your guitar, the notes you fret along it will be slightly 'flat'
  • If a string is too 'short' for the scale length of your guitar, the notes you fret along it will be slightly 'sharp'
Intonation problems gradually become more noticeable the further up the fretboard you play.
 
On most guitars, you should have some control over both the action and the intonation of the strings. Ideally (for example: on guitars like a Fender Stratocaster) you can adjust the action and intonation for each string individually. Any guitar that doesn't allow the individual setting of each string's action and intonation will result in a slight compromise, although on a decent quality guitar, a good set-up will ensure this isn't a problem. 
 
The correct action is slightly different for each string, and will be different for different string gauges. As a general rule, thicker strings will require a slightly higher action than thinner strings.
 
To set up both the action and intonation of a string:
  • The ACTION:
    1. Tune the open string to the correct pitch
    2. If you start with a high action, gradually lower the string and fret it all over the fretboard until it starts to buzz - now raise it again until the buzzing stops
    3. If you start with too low an action and the string is already buzzing, gradually raise it until the buzzing stops
    4. Remember to retune the string after every adjustment in height - as you raise a string, you will also be tightening it slightly thereby raising the pitch; as you lower a string, you will be slackening it slightly thereby lowering its pitch
    5. Remember also that a guitar's action can also be set for the player's comfort and playability preferences. Again, this can be a compromise - a guitar set up with an overall low action and thinner gauge strings will be easier to play, but a guitar set up with a higher action and thicker strings will sound louder and 'fuller'
    6. If you can only adjust the action of all the strings at once, or for example in pairs, then you will have to set the action so that none of the strings in each group is high enough to prevent buzzing
  • The INTONATION:
    1. With the action set for each string, again retune the open string to the correct pitch
    2. Now fret the string at the 12th fret (or some would argue, ever better, 'sound' the harmonic at the 12th fret) and check its pitch, either by ear or (ideally) using a tuner. At the 12th fret, the string will play an octave higher than the open string.
      • If the note at the 12th fret is flat, this means the string is too long - gradually shorten it until the 12th fret octave is perfectly in tune with the open string
      • If the note at the 12th fret is sharp, this means the string is too short- gradually lengthen it until the 12th fret octave is perfectly in tune with the open string
    3. In all cases of setting the intonation, it is crucial to retune the open string after every adjustment in string length - if you've shortened the string it will become lower in pitch as you've slightly relaxed it, if you've lengthened the string it will become higher in pitch as you've tightened it
    4. If you can only set the intonation for all the strings at once, or in pairs, then this will involve some form of compromise. As a general rule, you should set the intonation of a group of strings somewhere 'in the middle' so to speak, so some strings are slightly flat at the octave, and some strings are slightly sharp. On a good guitar with a decent set-up however, these differences will be unnoticeable to the ear, the slight variations will only be noticeable when using an electronic guitar tuner..
It's well worth learning how to set both the action and intonation of your guitar, and to check it on a regular basis.
 
Check out this YouTube video on setting up your guitar.
 
 
 
2013/05/05 12:26:08
THE NIGHT FOX
WOW Steve thats one hairy bit of information on setting up a guitar .
This guitar is NEW from SweetWater , they did a complete 55 point inspection on my guitar and neck , fretboard and pickups .

I put a new set of strings on my guitar and it stays in tune like it should , the strings or action as you put it were set to standard height by SweetWater and they checked the playabity to make sure it played correctly before shipping it to me .

I'm not having problems playing it , it has taken me over a month to get my finger tips hard enough to play chords correctly so they sound like they should sound .
If you read my question I was asking about the guitar MIX , oh yes believe me I have spent hours checking out hours of guitar videos on just about everything but hey it never hurts to get some advice from ALL my guitar buddies on this forum .

Thanks Steve for being the first buddy to make the leap of faith with some useful tips and information .
I'm sure someday down the road I will have to have this guitar service and check all these things you talked about .


Thanks Steve - James
2013/05/05 12:46:03
THE NIGHT FOX

Hi everyone , I posted this sample not to show off my playing , I was hoping to get some comments on how I mixed what I played when mixing the guitar tracks with the rest of the music .

What I was playing is nothing really , ONE chord picking and strumming .
My reason for posting was all about the MIX and nothing more , theres nothing to brag about with my playing but I will say I'm not doing too bad starting out .
Everyone of you started playing your guitar the same way , everybody starts out playing simple chords and I'm no different . I'm starting out at ground level just like everyone of you did , if you want to help thats great but please don't make fun of me .

I know many of you have been playing your guitar for twenty plus years and thats great , I thought maybe one of you would be glad  to share with me how you record and mix your guitar tracks .
Sometime next year I plan on taking some guitar lessons after we move to Tennessee hopefully in Nov of this year , I'm sure in Nashville I'll be able to find a great guitar teacher .
As for this area its not like Nashville , TN , Nashville is a music city . If I plan on taking some good guitar lessons thats the place to go and take lessons .

Anyway thanks - James
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