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2015/05/29 01:05:33
Susan G
Wow, great info! Looks like John Oliver nailed it and good for Loretta Lynch.
 
Thanks so much, all!
 
-Susan
2015/05/29 09:55:08
Moshkito
Hi,
 
Susan ... here we go the Mickey Mousse version!
 
There is a side to this, that is not always visible to many Americans. When you look at all the military this and that, be it in Africa or elsewhere, it is usually because of the controls of the moneys/economy in that particular state, and there is always another group that wants a part of it and is not getting it.
 
Sometimes, not as much in these days, it is about religion and an ideal, but those tend to die out real quick.
 
In Latin America, since the days of the "conquistadores", it's always been about the control of the people, even so far as killing the natives to achieve their goals ... a good movie on this is "The Mission", a must see movie that kinda gives away why South America is so messed up economically and no one can control it. Europe has always been about the upper crust of its people, and how they inter-mingled to get something or other done. And even including the Roman Catholic Church many hundreds of years ago.
 
The issue always was about getting things done without anyone knowing why, how or what for. In the 20th century, with the advent of the media, this has gotten more and more difficult, and this should be no surprise to you why some courts in Europe want to shut up Google, Yahoo and other searches, because it brings "bad" information about their own upper class folks ... they continue to try and change laws and governance, so they can make sure they stay in power, and no one "dares" ask something as personal as to how much you make, and so forth, which in America was done away with a long time ago, and will get you in jail! But in Europe and many other countries, that is the sign of the rich class and their control on the rest of the people.
 
FIFA, uses the highest of the high, from all over the world. They never think they are wrong, and they all want a piece of the big pie ... and the biggest pie has been for almost 75 years, the World Cup, whose rights from the media went insane after Pele in 1958 and 1962. Before then, half the world did not know it existed. And it was at that time that the media "exploded" all over Europe, and guess who "owned it"? 
 
America changed the way these things worked, because the highest of the high in America do not have a whole lot more rights than you or I ... they might have more cars and dope, but that's about it!
2015/05/29 10:27:14
dubdisciple
Moshkito
Mystic38
its all about fraud, corruption and bribery on a global scale with zero financial oversight and zero accountability.
 
and, for FIFA, its the same....




Don't forget that in many of the countries that those folks are from, THERE IS NO oversight or accountability for rich folks! PERIOD!
 
If there were, half the Arab folks would be busted and no one would buy oil from them individually because of WHERE they sent their money! ... and guns, and this and that ... etc, etc!
 


Why single out Arabs? The statement you used can be equally applied across the world. The weapons wars around the world are fought with are manufactured and sold by mostly US , China, Russia and France. War has always been a way for rich people to make money off of poor nations in conflict.
2015/05/31 11:36:26
Moshkito
dubdisciple
Why single out Arabs? The statement you used can be equally applied across the world. The weapons wars around the world are fought with are manufactured and sold by mostly US , China, Russia and France. War has always been a way for rich people to make money off of poor nations in conflict.



It was not meant that way at all. The idea was that no one checks anything, and the numbers that many of these high level people talk about, are probably one half of what they take with them!
 
I kinda thought that the example of the super rich sheiks and this and that would be a better example, since we can not "name" people in Russia, China, France or anywhere else. AND, there are just as many of them doing the right thing, as otherwise, I imagine! 
 
In the end, it has a tendency to show their strength and ability, and a lot of this can be seen in Europe in the form of soccer and the many top teams that are now owned by some of those interests (including American!) and they are simply running the show and their teams will rarely lose and such! And it distorts, our appreciation, and understanding, by eating up our own emotions!
 
But heck ... this has been done for thousands of years by so many folks, it's not even funny! It's been the history of the world as we know it!
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