... at least in the latest RC.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/16/windows_10_will_update_whether_you_like_it_or_not_unless_you_have_enterprise_edition/
 
Enterprise Edition seems to be the only one which will allow security-only updates.
 
So applications may break if they disagree with a new Windows 10 update. I don't know if there's system roll-back capabilities with this. 
 
For any of our members who have already made the switch - has anyone more info on this?
 
Jerry
 

I fear that this is a grand scheme, coupled with the giving away of win10 by ms, to one day, via an update, render windows 10 as a cloud terminal so to speak and we all go back to the time share days of the day of the mainframe paying rent to MS.
 
Why else give it away if not to rope in as many as possible.
And then make updates (live code modification) mandatory if not to enslave us?
 
You C: drive is your personal power and liberty - don't give it up.
 

Customers would just walk away from that, though. So even if they were planning that, they couldn't pull it off. And I'm sure they're not daft enough to be planning it.

As a side point, I've had automatic updates on in Windows 7 for five years straight, and it's never caused me a single problem.

I kind of agree John T.  I have always had auto checks and installs disabled, but the reality is the only updates I haven't ended up installing are the Bing and Skype updates.
 
The biggest deal for me is control over the timing of both phoning home, and download/install.
 
The other thing that nags the back of my mind is the idea (think FB and google models) that if something is free for me, then I am probably the product being sold to someone else.
 
How many ads (think Android & reduced price Kindle) will I be forced to watch or dismiss while tracking for my future-platinum album?
 
There's a reason for FREE stuff on the interwebz!!!
 
 

John T
As a side point, I've had automatic updates on in Windows 7 for five years straight, and it's never caused me a single problem.

same here, and with 8.1 also

BobF
 
The other thing that nags the back of my mind is the idea (think FB and google models) that if something is free for me, then I am probably the product being sold to someone else.
 
How many ads (think Android & reduced price Kindle) will I be forced to watch or dismiss while tracking for my future-platinum album?
 
There's a reason for FREE stuff on the interwebz!!!
 
 

My impression is that MS aren't really building an ad-supported / data-mining thing. It's more that Windows becomes the platform via which they sell you other things. Cloud services, office apps, stuff like that.
 
That's the thing that really requires that you keep your users more or less up to date with the latest platform. There's not really any other reason to bother.

Meh... they may be just that stupid but this is why you test this stuff out before going all in on critical machines.
 
My Win7 system works alright but I would like the supposed performance advantages of Win10 (but maybe I shoudl scramble and try to snag a Win8 disc just in case?).
 
This is the type of thing that would drive me to another OS though.
 
So, Bakers, let's get our beloved program working on Linux...
 
oops, did I say Linux? Yeah, I did. Screw Mac (but port to that as well if you have time) but with all your talent pool I'd bet you guys could hack up a nice Linux distro that works flawlessly with Sonar and manages to get VSTs working well too. Heck... maybe the Cake distro would be so sweet and smooth it could beat out Ubuntu as the best commercial version for people just wanting to do general crap.
 
I'm sure there are all sorts of lawyers and execs and whatnot who'd get their long blades out over such an action though but if possible...
 
SONAR 4 LINUX!!!!

John T

BobF
 
The other thing that nags the back of my mind is the idea (think FB and google models) that if something is free for me, then I am probably the product being sold to someone else.
 
How many ads (think Android & reduced price Kindle) will I be forced to watch or dismiss while tracking for my future-platinum album?
 
There's a reason for FREE stuff on the interwebz!!!
 
 

My impression is that MS aren't really building an ad-supported / data-mining thing. It's more that Windows becomes the platform via which they sell you other things. Cloud services, office apps, stuff like that.
 
That's the thing that really requires that you keep your users more or less up to date with the latest platform. There's not really any other reason to bother.

Even being nagged by MS ads will be annoying ...
 
ANYTHING that can be mined and sold WILL be mined and sold.  No self-respecting CEO will leave revenue laying about  :)
 
 
 

BobF
 
ANYTHING that can be mined and sold WILL be mined and sold.  No self-respecting CEO will leave revenue laying about  :)
 
 
 

That first sentence and the second sentence don't actually support each other, you know.

What if the process of mining and selling everything you can actually lowered revenue?