John T

BobF
 
ANYTHING that can be mined and sold WILL be mined and sold.  No self-respecting CEO will leave revenue laying about  :)
 
 
 

That first sentence and the second sentence don't actually support each other, you know.

What if the process of mining and selling everything you can actually lowered revenue?

I guess time will tell the tale ...

The forced updates for home users (not on an enterprise service contract) is apparently part of the license. So that is no longer speculation.
http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-releases-new-license-terms-for-windows-10-no-surprises/?tag=nl.e539&s_cid=e539&ttag=e539&ftag=TRE17cfd61
 
The ability to get a valid Win 10 license by upgrading a pirated/"non-genuine" version of Win7 or Win8 has been debunked. Your upgrade will not be genuine Windows (licensed) unless done from a licensed version.
 
Apparently you can move a retail Win10 to a new machine, but as always you can not move an OEM Win10 off the machine you bought it with. That raises an interesting possibility. Since Win10 upgrades will be offered free so long as the machine it is installed on is compatible hardware, when your old machine will no longer run the latest Win10 will you be able to just buy a new/better clean computer and just move your Win10 installation and license to that machine? A perpetual license for an immortal OS?

I saw something about paying for google and the big e when learn windows 10 popped up unannounced on my screen. 

Beepster
Meh... they may be just that stupid but this is why you test this stuff out before going all in on critical machines.
 
My Win7 system works alright but I would like the supposed performance advantages of Win10 (but maybe I shoudl scramble and try to snag a Win8 disc just in case?).
 
This is the type of thing that would drive me to another OS though.
 
So, Bakers, let's get our beloved program working on Linux...
 
oops, did I say Linux? Yeah, I did. Screw Mac (but port to that as well if you have time) but with all your talent pool I'd bet you guys could hack up a nice Linux distro that works flawlessly with Sonar and manages to get VSTs working well too. Heck... maybe the Cake distro would be so sweet and smooth it could beat out Ubuntu as the best commercial version for people just wanting to do general crap.
 
I'm sure there are all sorts of lawyers and execs and whatnot who'd get their long blades out over such an action though but if possible...
 
SONAR 4 LINUX!!!!

+1000 ^^^^ THIS!!!

For most automatic updates is not a problem. For a few that want total control over updating just run the update module under Update and Security and check for updates yourself. 
 
For me its really about knowing when an update is going to happen. I am not in any way opposed to updates. I'm not sure what others have as an objection to them. It has often been said here to apply updates for solving issues encountered from time to time. 
 
Also I am moving this thread to the Software forum. 

 I think they should lower their prices on the licenses.  They always had intro prices.  I bought a 3 pack of W7 Home for $150. My only W8 Pro license had a $50 intro price from MS. I have 4 systems, 3 have W7 Pro OEM licenses.  I upgraded everything on a machine and didn't have to call MS. One the motherboard died and I used the old board on the upgraded machine and had to call MS.  My OEM license came from a vendor who got sued by MS so I'll be forced in W10 OEM.  I'm not a fan of OEM licenses since they cost the same as retail and if you like to upgrade important parts it's not the best choice. I know they were lenient in the past with OEM reactivation but who knows this time.
 One of the reasons for keeping the updates on is for security patches. Keep in mind the OS is free for a year.  MS revenue is not totally reliant on their OS.  With Sony PS4 not playing older games Xbox could take the top spot. Plus Vista made people hold on to XP longer.  W8 pushed people into Apple products.  W10 free is more like an apology.   

Actually, having raised the thread in the first place, I have auto updates on my Win8.1, with no issues, yet. It's just the increasing mandatory takeover that Windows exerts on a machine. As long as we can roll-back an errant update.
 
jdf

Maybe there's something cursed about 9. Windows is going from 8 to 10. SONAR went from 8 to 8.5, and then X1. Apple System 9 was the last version before OS X.
 
9 could be to software as the 13th floor is to elevators  

Anderton
Maybe there's something cursed about 9. Windows is going from 8 to 10. SONAR went from 8 to 8.5, and then X1. Apple System 9 was the last version before OS X.
 
9 could be to software as the 13th floor is to elevators  

You may have a point. LOL Though I can't think of a reason for this to be so. There was Pro Audio 9 and it was a great version. Maybe its the notion of no. 9 being a dog. (no offense to canines)  In Viet Nam no. 1 was great no. 9 was awful.  

Those worried about windows update should just get a decent backup system going like acronis. Then stop worrying. By not updating your OS periodically you are running a system with worse security, worse reliability and slower performance.

This isn't Windows XP any more.

Cheers.