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2015/07/16 15:49:21
Doktor Avalanche
Beepster
SONAR 4 LINUX!!!!


MS have that base covered...

http://www.techradar.com/...s-dual-booters-1289096
2015/07/16 16:02:21
batsbrew
what about those of us who run our DAW's off line?
 
once i get a DAW settled down and running smoothly,
i don't care about updates.
2015/07/16 16:05:44
Doktor Avalanche
batsbrew
what about those of us who run our DAW's off line?
 
once i get a DAW settled down and running smoothly,
i don't care about updates.


Better not update straight away eh...
You'll find out end of month. I suspect you will be left alone until you next connect online.
2015/07/16 20:43:53
Beepster
Apparently they skipped over 9 because it had the potential of screwing up programs. Essentially they were worried that certain programs would see the 9 and think they were dealing with win 95 or 98. Sounds kind of nuts but that little tidbit was buried in some Q&A stuff I was reading about Win10 and supposedly directly from MS.
 
Then again... it's the intertubes so who the frack knows.
2015/07/16 21:19:28
Doktor Avalanche
Beepster
Apparently they skipped over 9 because it had the potential of screwing up programs. Essentially they were worried that certain programs would see the 9 and think they were dealing with win 95 or 98. Sounds kind of nuts but that little tidbit was buried in some Q&A stuff I was reading about Win10 and supposedly directly from MS.
 
Then again... it's the intertubes so who the frack knows.


Sounds like horse to me :)
Nice story though from internet land!

Cheers..
2015/07/17 00:39:59
dubdisciple
Forced updates can me nightmarish for those working in professional environments. Couple years back MS did an update that that totally screwed many video editors. It conflocted with a of video cards and had to be removed. Subsequent patches fixed it months later. Most rolled back until then. If that update had been mandatory I would have been unable to work for a month or two.
2015/07/17 01:45:42
Larry Jones
John
For most automatic updates is not a problem. For a few that want total control over updating just run the update module under Update and Security and check for updates yourself. 
 
For me its really about knowing when an update is going to happen. I am not in any way opposed to updates. I'm not sure what others have as an objection to them. It has often been said here to apply updates for solving issues encountered from time to time. 
 
Also I am moving this thread to the Software forum. 

 
Not sure if you read the original post, but this is about Windows 10, and mandatory updates occurring on Microsoft's schedule. If the updates really are going to be mandatory, as has been suggested, they almost certainly will disallow your idea of checking for updates at your own pace.

Everybody wants the "good" updates. It's a matter of finding out which ones are going to turn out to be helpful and not disrupt your work. One way to do that is to take an update only after it's been out for a while and proven itself. If Sonar updated itself automatically, a lot of users would have been derailed several times already this year, and Cakewalk is a company that cares about its customers. I don't have the same faith in Microsoft, so to me the concept of mandatory forced "updates" is disconcerting (not that there will be a lot of options in dealing with Microsoft).
2015/07/17 10:04:46
Doktor Avalanche
dubdisciple
Forced updates can me nightmarish for those working in professional environments. Couple years back MS did an update that that totally screwed many video editors. It conflocted with a of video cards and had to be removed. Subsequent patches fixed it months later. Most rolled back until then. If that update had been mandatory I would have been unable to work for a month or two.


If you had done backups you would have been fine.
2015/07/17 10:14:43
Doktor Avalanche
Larry Jones
 Not sure if you read the original post, but this is about Windows 10, and mandatory updates occurring on Microsoft's schedule. If the updates really are going to be mandatory, as has been suggested, they almost certainly will disallow your idea of checking for updates at your own pace.

Everybody wants the "good" updates. It's a matter of finding out which ones are going to turn out to be helpful and not disrupt your work. One way to do that is to take an update only after it's been out for a while and proven itself.


I speculate M$ will allow people to install updates within a certain time period, up to a month maybe. Some will be entirely optional. Some emergency updates will be installed straight away. If you are offline you won't get hassled until you are online again.

If an update is dodgy it will simply roll back, you will probably get the option to optionally roll back as well if necessary afterwards.

Forcing updates is a great way if improving reliabilty. One of the issues some updates may have been problematic in the past is because users were installing them in a different order to other users. By forcing users to installl updates in the same order as everybody else peoples experiences are going to be similar (not exactly of course because of different hardware). M$'s QA dept will have a much easier time.
2015/07/17 15:34:15
Larry Jones
Doktor Avalanche

I speculate M$ will allow people to install updates within a certain time period, up to a month maybe. Some will be entirely optional. Some emergency updates will be installed straight away. If you are offline you won't get hassled until you are online again.

If an update is dodgy it will simply roll back, you will probably get the option to optionally roll back as well if necessary afterwards.

Forcing updates is a great way if improving reliabilty. One of the issues some updates may have been problematic in the past is because users were installing them in a different order to other users. By forcing users to installl updates in the same order as everybody else peoples experiences are going to be similar (not exactly of course because of different hardware). M$'s QA dept will have a much easier time.



You describe sort of the best of all possible update scenarios. Since we are speculating, I am inclined to speculate that Microsoft will find a way to make things more complicated and potentially disruptive. If they don't, then I will be pleasantly surprised and happy. Of course this means I will be depressed and fearful for months leading up to the Win 10 release, but that's the price for ultimate happiness.
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