2015/04/08 09:13:48
Beagle
"Problem is, the sound of 'bit-identical' computer audio may well be just as inexplicably inconsistent as analogue."
 
wow.  just wow.
2015/04/08 12:17:40
ston
I am creating a range of fine tone wood cases for USB drives which should allow fine control of the timbral shaping of music files played back from them.  Integrated within are micro-mesh faraday cages which help preserve the streaming bit pattern from being perturbed by external magnetic fields, cosmic rays and gravitational waves.
2015/04/08 12:45:45
Beagle
ston
I am creating a range of fine tone wood cases for USB drives which should allow fine control of the timbral shaping of music files played back from them.  Integrated within are micro-mesh faraday cages which help preserve the streaming bit pattern from being perturbed by external magnetic fields, cosmic rays and gravitational waves.


you will make a fortune on that!
2015/04/08 13:07:49
Mesh
ston
 Integrated within are micro-mesh faraday cages......


I've been called much worse....but, I'm cage free now.
2015/04/09 06:02:57
ston
Beagle
you will make a fortune on that!

 
I know, right!
 
They're also input-buffered by beeswax capacitors (they're the buzziest!)
 
http://www.hificollective.co.uk/components/jupiter_flats_100v.html
 
Optionally, I might use the Yellow Vintage Tone caps, as they provide "a more authentic tone to the time period" and "Many users have reported that the Jupiter Vintage Tone caps give them the sound they have been searching since they began playing."
 
Presumably the capacitors detect the period the music is belonging to and fine-tune the tone accordingly.  Quite astonishing.  Forget the solid-state vs valves debacle, it's all about the caps (and bees!)
2015/04/09 08:36:18
Beagle
ston
Beagle
you will make a fortune on that!

I know, right!
 
They're also input-buffered by beeswax capacitors (they're the buzziest!)
 
http://www.hificollective.co.uk/components/jupiter_flats_100v.html
 
Optionally, I might use the Yellow Vintage Tone caps, as they provide "a more authentic tone to the time period" and "Many users have reported that the Jupiter Vintage Tone caps give them the sound they have been searching since they began playing."
 
Presumably the capacitors detect the period the music is belonging to and fine-tune the tone accordingly.  Quite astonishing.  Forget the solid-state vs valves debacle, it's all about the caps (and bees!)



2015/04/09 13:44:35
slartabartfast
OK I got bored pretty early in this piece, but it seems like they are saying that the digital audio stream delivered from different drives are different. That would seem to be possible, even plausible. A properly buffered system with a reliable clock should have no such difference in theory, except for dropped bits, but that is possible as are real time delays in the data delivery and processing. But they seem to have based that conclusion on listening to the sound output. And they seem to be comparing audible performance to a CD player as the gold standard, even though that system introduces many more sources of error. That is like measuring the voltage of a battery by putting your tongue on the contacts. With a bit of expense and trouble, they could have actually examined the bits arriving at the D/A stage and compared them exactly in the digital/time domain. Of course if they could demonstrate that the actual bits delivered at the actual time was identical in both systems, I have no doubt their conclusions would not have changed. 
2015/04/09 16:20:51
sharke
I don't get it, surely if storage mediums weren't outputting absolutely 100% identical bits, then they would be considered to unreliable to store/transfer computer code? A difference in one bit could mean the difference between a program working and not working.
2015/04/09 19:42:28
craigb
slartabartfast
OK I got bored pretty early in this piece, but it seems like they are saying that the digital audio stream delivered from different drives are different. That would seem to be possible, even plausible. A properly buffered system with a reliable clock should have no such difference in theory, except for dropped bits, but that is possible as are real time delays in the data delivery and processing. But they seem to have based that conclusion on listening to the sound output. And they seem to be comparing audible performance to a CD player as the gold standard, even though that system introduces many more sources of error. That is like measuring the voltage of a battery by putting your tongue on the contacts. With a bit of expense and trouble, they could have actually examined the bits arriving at the D/A stage and compared them exactly in the digital/time domain. Of course if they could demonstrate that the actual bits delivered at the actual time was identical in both systems, I have no doubt their conclusions would not have changed. 




You're absolutely right!  They really should compare this by putting their tongue on the storage device. 
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