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  • 'Firefrost' - alternative mix without drums (p.5)
2013/03/09 05:01:47
jamesg1213
The Band19


Sorry James, I meant to listen and comment earlier. I like it, "as usual." Something a miss with the bass though? Did you know I'm a bass player? And? I have an Alembic? (Not many bass players can say that :-)

This actually kind of a Steve Vai vibe to me? It's the guitar melody and in some respect the tones. It's over now, in retrospect, it feels almost like part of a rock opera? Like "a scene?" As it it was something else, then this happened, and it's about to transition to the next scene?

(I'm sorry for that Ed, I didn't bust um too hard? Just a tap really? Like a fist bump?)

Actually it sounds pretty nice all the way around? I did particularly enjoy the guitars. Good job.

Thanks Robby. For all your joking around, you always have some good insights. The above comment is spot-on actually, that's exactly what this piece is.

I like the bass though.
2013/03/09 05:03:05
jamesg1213
ohgrant


 Cool stuff guys, I enjoyed

Thanks Grant, much appreciated.
2013/03/09 05:06:56
jamesg1213
jamesyoyo


I like the drum rhythms, but the sounds you chose for them: not so much. Especially in the first part where the snare thing sounds like a clipped wav edit.

There are real moments of beauty here, but it does come across kinda disjointed. The bass is fine I think, but it sounds too prominent and upfront for this track. Maybe grab some fundamentals and low pass the rest. Then there wouldn't be so much contention with the rest.

The piano could stand to be pushed back a tad with some reverb, 

Hi James, thanks very much for the mix tips, always welcome. I did struggle with the drums on this one, I will admit. I probably made a rod for own back by writing it with an alternating time sig (it goes from 6/4 to 4/4 and back). Probably needs a drummer to make sense of it.
2013/03/09 08:53:57
chuckebaby
what a great piece, im in love with the main melody of the song, its beautiful James, your guitar work is just amazing in this song.
the piano is very nice as well and what can I say about the bass ? just great ed.

man I just keep going back to the melody, its great.
I would just die to hear this with lyrics some how built in to it.
the melody lines are big sellers/top 40 #1 hit stuff, the things hits are made of.

I didn't know what to expect when I hit play, I haven't listen to many of your songs.
I really liked this.

id love to critique it but I just cant im sorry, I felt everything was right there and where it needed to be.
could it have been recorded in a 5 million dollar studio and mastered at the record plant?
sure I would notice the difference but for polished/non polished mix, this is great.

thanks for sharing
2013/03/09 09:33:37
jamesg1213
chuckebaby


what a great piece, im in love with the main melody of the song, its beautiful James, your guitar work is just amazing in this song.
the piano is very nice as well and what can I say about the bass ? just great ed.

man I just keep going back to the melody, its great.
I would just die to hear this with lyrics some how built in to it.
the melody lines are big sellers/top 40 #1 hit stuff, the things hits are made of.

I didn't know what to expect when I hit play, I haven't listen to many of your songs.
I really liked this.

id love to critique it but I just cant im sorry, I felt everything was right there and where it needed to be.
could it have been recorded in a 5 million dollar studio and mastered at the record plant?
sure I would notice the difference but for polished/non polished mix, this is great.

thanks for sharing

Chuck, this may seem like bumping, but I don't care, 'cos you just made my day!  This piece started with the melody, and I'm so pleased you liked it.
2013/03/09 17:14:45
Guitarpima
I think the mix could be much clearer. The seperation is not there yet.

Musicly, I think it's excellent. You bring your melody then go off elsewhere then the main melody comes back. Something I think a lot of people forget.

I saw the comment about Ed's playing. I like his lines. I think what the comment was about is Ed was following the climaxes along rather than pushing the next phrase in (if that makes sense).

I agree about Terry's excllent playing being lost. I think clearing up the mix would help.

Excellent work by all!!!
2013/03/10 09:41:54
paulo
I've listened three times now on different days to see of the drums would grow on me, but I'm still not feeling the love for them. Guitar tones are to die for as usual. It's good, but not there yet for me.
2013/03/10 11:11:06
jamesg1213
Guitarpima


I think the mix could be much clearer. The seperation is not there yet.

Musicly, I think it's excellent. You bring your melody then go off elsewhere then the main melody comes back. Something I think a lot of people forget.

I saw the comment about Ed's playing. I like his lines. I think what the comment was about is Ed was following the climaxes along rather than pushing the next phrase in (if that makes sense).

I agree about Terry's excllent playing being lost. I think clearing up the mix would help.

Excellent work by all!!!

Thanks Robert, appreciate the thoughtful comments.
2013/03/10 11:12:19
jamesg1213
paulo


I've listened three times now on different days to see of the drums would grow on me, but I'm still not feeling the love for them. Guitar tones are to die for as usual. It's good, but not there yet for me.

Hi Paulo, thanks for taking the time to do that. See original post for an alternative mix without drums (until the final 4/4 section)
2013/03/10 11:31:18
chuckebaby
jamesg1213


chuckebaby


what a great piece, im in love with the main melody of the song, its beautiful James, your guitar work is just amazing in this song.
the piano is very nice as well and what can I say about the bass ? just great ed.

man I just keep going back to the melody, its great.
I would just die to hear this with lyrics some how built in to it.
the melody lines are big sellers/top 40 #1 hit stuff, the things hits are made of.

I didn't know what to expect when I hit play, I haven't listen to many of your songs.
I really liked this.

id love to critique it but I just cant im sorry, I felt everything was right there and where it needed to be.
could it have been recorded in a 5 million dollar studio and mastered at the record plant?
sure I would notice the difference but for polished/non polished mix, this is great.

thanks for sharing

Chuck, this may seem like bumping, but I don't care, 'cos you just made my day!  This piece started with the melody, and I'm so pleased you liked it.

came back for another listen today,true to my word, i love this piece.the melody's grow on you a lot.
I listened to the version without drums as well. just a great work of art.
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