SvenArne
Hi software forum!
Whenever I want a realistic drum track, I always record my Roland TD-4K V-drums (I'm sort of a drummer).

 
Are you saying you don't have a BFD3 keymap for the Roland TD-4K?
 
I have one in my keymap folder.
 
Also, if you haven't already you should post your questions on the BFD3 forum too and there's also the Edrumming with BFD forum but traffic is light on there so you may have to wait, but there are quite a few edrummers on the BFD3 forum.
 
Steve

dcumpian
Oh, and a new BFD3 user (me) asks: How many presets are there supposed to be in a new install?
 
I've found that the presets aren't getting added by default when I add an expansion. I have to go find them and manually add them. I think BFD3 kind of expects you to have had (have?) BFD2 first...
 
Regards,
Dan

When I upgraded to BFD 3 it automatically saw all my existing installs and 
asked me if I wanted to import the presets...and all my expansions had the
the presets installed as well when they were installed.  They all reside in 
the same "grouping" so that may be why...but never had an issue with that...

SvenArne

noynekker
Hey Sven . . . I always start with one acoustic kit preset, and drag and drop individual sample drums if needed.
 
The real power in BFD3 is the Groove Palette, the way you can build a song, and create variations, edit the fills, right inside BFD3 (it also drinks none of your beer) . . . and it syncs perfectly inside Sonar. At some point after an idea is developed enough I usually drag the BFD3 song onto a track in Sonar to take it to the next level.
 
BFD makes its own drum map in Sonar, no editing of that map has ever been required by me.
Easily edited in PRV, or Staff View (once you set the layout)
 
It's true, the velocities act differently than some other drum packages, but they have followed a concept of trying to make it respond like a studio mic'd kit would, with all the many microphone interplays, and crossfeeds. As a result, you have total control over every kit piece, the room, and a built in drum mixer, with effects, but the velocities don't always act in a linear fashion because of this. You say you think the samples respond much too linear, I haven't found that to be an issue. I do agree that the different kits are recorded inconsistently . . . that's why I always start with just one acoustic kit, and replace pieces as needed for taste. You just need to find your favourite all round kit for your style, and go from there.
 
I find BFD3 shines more as an Acoustic drum kit package, than is does for Electronic sounding kits, for that I might try NI Battery or AD2.
 
BFD3 does take a longer time to figure out, because it's deep with features, unlike some other drum sample software where you're up and running right away.

Thanks for your reply!
 
I do like the control options, but I would like the whole package to be more plug and play out of the box, since it's easy to lose perspective after I've spent alot of time making key map tweaks! When I load the default kit from Superior 2, or a "clean" kit from AD2 I've never been 'surprised' by the stick response like I am with BFD3. And I've played a lot of mic'd up acoustic kits!
 
Which acoustic kit do you use as your default startup? Do you load the "preset" or the "kit"?
 
Sven

Sven, whenever I insert it as a soft synth, I have BFD3 set to always load my go to pre-set "BFD3 Pop 110bpm JM"
The mixer part of this pre-set works well for me also.
It's always the best starting point for the music I do, a crisp natural sounding pop kit.
Mostly, if needed, I drag in different toms or hi-hats to get what I need.

I use BFD3 with Yamaha Edrums pretty successfully. Depending on what expansions you have, you may find some inconsistency across presets, such AMG settings on kit pieces for BFD3 kits versus BFD2 imported, etc. I haven't had anything I couldn't overcome.

BFD3 is such a powerhouse in sound, that I find it easy to look beyond some of the rough edges of the program. Agree that AD2 is probably more polished and updated more frequently, but nothing sounds like BFD3.